Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather?

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Who Was More Impressive AND better For The Sport??

  1. Oleksandr Usyk

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    62.8%
  2. floyd

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    40.4%
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  1. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    And also… who was better for the sport of boxing?? I think it’s pretty much clear as day, Oleksandr Usyk was both! Plus floyd NEVER went into his opponents backyards like Usyk did so many times and won so impressively. But make your pick and explain why :thumbsup:

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    Usyk is truly a great ambassador of the sport too. Nobody can even say any different and not sound stupid :)

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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd was obviously a great fighter but a large portion of his career was smoke and mirrors with careful matchmaking.

    So for me it is Usyk. Once Usyk turned pro he wasted no time and always fought the best available competition most of the time as the B side and on the road. Became undisputed in 2 divisions including winning the WBSS. No smoke and mirrors no games just good old fashion hard work and self belief.
     
  3. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweathers career is about 4 times as impressive
     
  4. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Member Full Member

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    Usyk, because ultimately Usyk would beat Mayweather every day of the week.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I prefer to watch Usyk fight ... but Mayweather gets the nod.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm the opposite I prefer watching Mayweather fight well his fights below Welterweight anyway when he used to get stoppages.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was more entertaining then, I agree.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty Boy Floyd >> Usyk>> Money May
     
  9. OddR

    OddR Active Member Full Member

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    I am not sure I agree with this extent of grouping amateur achievements with the same worth as pro's.

    However I do also value amateur achievements if it's a very deep pool like Uysk's but it's still more about the pro's in my opinion.
     
  10. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now this is where word choice really matters. In terms of P4P greatness I don't think there's much debate Mayweather is better. But since you're asking for who was more IMPRESSIVE and BETTER FOR THE SPORT I think you gotta say Usyk since he constantly challenged himself, always fought on foreign soil, never ducked anyone, unified two divisions, and now at heavyweight constantly fighting bigger stronger fighters. I think all of that is much more impressive then anything Floyd did who tried to maximize his money making potential while minimizing his risks especially as he got older and now we have an influx of fighters who do the same ruining the sport. If more fighters had Usyk's attitude sport would be way better.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Counting both, Usyk.

    Pros alone, Mayweather.

    Better for the sport? Eh, that one's tough. Mayweather brought a LOT of eyes and put up some insane PPV numbers playing the heel that everybody wanted to see humbled. That is balanced, however, against charged leveled at him by critics of him setting the "overly protective toward one's zero" trend, and in his fights (especially at welter and up) probably not being as scintillating as most of Usyk's, if we're looking strictly at in-ring and not the hype and shenanigans that went into selling them.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think counting amateur and pro accomplishments is fair when it comes to great amateurs who turned pro way later than great pros who turned pro in their teens

    Obviously the great amateurs who turned pro late lost a huge chunk of their prime years to the amateurs and they have much more depth in their amateur CVs and it's very difficult for them to have the same amount of depth the pro greats who turned pro way younger did due to having much shorter pro careers than them and also obviously age

    But Usyk clocked both the amateur and pro games from top to bottom

    Sure he's only a two weight champ to Floyd's five but by the same token there were only two weight classes for Usyk to conquer, unless you consider Bridgerweight a legit division and no one does at this present time, and the amount of size, weight and reach Usyk is giving away from CW to HW is obscene and much more vs these giants than other multi-weight champs are from lower division even in relative terms and Usyk is fighting them at full strength and in their backyards, on the road, on a deck stacked against him
     
  13. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::facepalm::facepalm:

    That really doesn’t even make sense. We both know floyd would NEVER… EVER fight a world class boxer that’s 50lbs heavier than him with a five inch height and reach advantage. lol And Usyk had ZERO issue doing that with Fury. Twice ;)

    Also Usyk rose to the occasion and got the job done at the Olympics. Your boy mayweather failed to. Yeah that last fight in Atlanta was controversial but floyd should’ve left no doubt as to who won! Plus Usyk beat a world champion in Russo to get his Gold and did so impressively.

    Plus I just couldn’t imagine Usyk lacking integrity and actually fighting an MMA fighter making his pro boxing debut to get to a certain number on his record and then claiming a big victory off that. :rolleyes::lol::lol: No way.
     
  14. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    Fury is a fat mess that should’ve had two losses already, Floyd has a bunch of more impressive wins not to mention having fought about 5x the volume of quality opposition as Usyk. Overrating the impact of size at heavyweight is baseless propaganda. Usyk is a poor mans Lomachenko nothing more, no amount of propaganda will change this fact
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think even just pro its narrowly Usyk. Mayweather had bad fights that it is generally felt that he lost. He aged fighters out. He cherry-picked. And I like the guy. But Usyk has done his things very clean.