Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather?

Pbf is greater but the usual suspects will down play him make excuses and act like he's a bum and never beat anyone of note. Usyk is a great a atg but he's not greater than pbf who's more accomplished and historically will be remembered as so only here will usyk be seen as greater because of popularity. Pbf schooled pac and canelo who are light years beyond anyone usyk ever beat.

 

Nobody is calling Floyd a bum also Pac and Canelo are not "light years" better than Fury, AJ and Briedis.

 

Yes they are pac is a top 20 atg canelo is probably a top 50 atg. Fury aj nor briedis are top 100 atgs.

 

Usyk is 6 foot 2 and 225 pounds Floyd wouldn't even look him in the eye and would cross the street like a goofie if he saw him

 

Canelo hadn't accomplished much when Floyd fought him at 152 also Pac was well past his best. Fury was the reigning undefeated WBC world heavyweight champion when Usyk fought him, AJ was reigning unified heavyweight champion when Usyk fought him in his backyard. Briedis was the reigning undefeated WBC cruiserweight champion when Usyk fought him in his backyard. Skill wise, fighting wise, talent wise these guys are not light years behind anybody.

 

Exactly there is no controversy in Usyk's career.

 

A poor man's Loma, WTF are you on?

 

What did AJ accomplish beating an old wlad in his last fight? Who did fury beat an old wlad and wilder 2x who did briedis beat? He ran usyk extremely close i do remember that.
Canelo and pac were all top 10 p4p fighters when pbf schooled them and they're both top 100 atgs and hof fighters so yes they're light years better than who usyk beat.

 

I already said what they had accomplished and heavyweights don't usually get ranked P4P. Old Wlad that Fury beat was better than old Pac that Floyd beat. Wilder was undefeated WBC world heavyweight champion. Yeah Briedis is a great fighter in his own right and the fight was in his hometown and Usyk still won convincingly enough to get the decision. You don't have any context the fact that Usyk was able to move up to heavyweight and beat these giants not once but twice is extremely impressive there size and power alone makes them more dangerous than anybody Floyd has fought. When it comes to having balls Usyk is light years better than Floyd.

 

No he wasn't. Sanders blasted out Wlad in 2. Floyd's win over De La Hoya and Canelo collectively surpass that

Give me Wilders top 3 wins, he beat nobody of note

 

Usyk became amateur world champion multiple times and also won Olympic gold. Floyd can't even come close to Usyk's amateur achievements.

Besides, Floyd was knocked down by Maidana. No one has knocked Usyk down yet.

Usyk became the undisputed world champion in two weight classes, something Floyd never achieved. Floyd was never undisputed champion.

Case closed.

 

Floyd. Floyd didn't win gold in the Olympics but he didn't have multiple cracks at it like Usyk did. Floyd IMO was robbed of a chance to compete for gold at 19 years old. Usyk didn't even medal at 21 years old when he first competed in it. But overall Usyk stayed in the amateurs longer and overall had a better amateur career. As far as pro's, this is the only place I've seen where people are making arguments Usyk has done more. Most people will rate Floyd higher because he did it for much longer, has a much deeper resume and was actually the face of boxing.

 

You forget this little kid version of dubois and also how sweet usyk cheated away a bad hurting body shot by AJ . And beyond this : when you duck every dangerous opponent and do not fight at all than its not soo hard not to loose.

 

You may well be right but cmon stop with the "usual suspects" bollocks
Your just playing in to thier hands by acknowledging the agenda some have and by doing so they can flip that narrative back at you

 

Gotta love Money Mayweather, all American affleet, role model and stripclub bidness man. Almost got beat by Maidana of all people but showed dem skillz in da rematch. Also showed Mcgregor waddup in Conor's first pro boxing match.

But if there was any doubt before, it's pretty clear Usyk is ahead now after dispatching AJ and Fury twice each.

When did IV ever take on top fighters that much bigger? Even when he fought Canelo he had the reach advantage and Canelo was on a drain to 152 which in Canelo's case is significant because he was such a huge drainer to 154 already. Ask Geale how easy 157 was compared to 160, he looked like he was the walking dead against Cotto.

Money won a lot, especially with everything in his favour and winning every close round on the cards in Murica where he never had to leave. But Usyk has won everything there is to win and did it away facing 'Brands' like Money out to rob him.