Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather?

Wlad had not lost in over a decade before the Fury fight, Pac was not far removed from a brutal KO loss before Floyd fought him and then went on to lose to Jeff Horn. Only casual morons don’t respect the Cruiserweight division it has produced some great fighters and great fights over the years. Floyd has a lot of good names on his resume but 90% were past their best and all the fights were on his terms at the same venue. Usyk did it all the hard way and didn’t duck any smoke so you are the one that needs to stop the “Cap”.

 

The only person who needs to stop the cap is you and any other casual who thinks usyk is greater than pbf. If the roles were reversed and pbf had Usyk career and resume at cw and hw and usyk had pbfs career and resume at 130-154 no one on this poll would rate pbf as greater and rightfully so. Usyk is winning because he's loved on this site and pbf is still hated that's it. With rational fans in any other boxing world is usyk seen as greater than pbf period end of discussion. PBF is better and more accomplished than usyk he did it against better against more accomplished fighters for much longer.

 

Yep struggled big time with Maidana who got dominated by Alexander and beaten by glass jawed Khan also went life and death with old fat Morales but got the Floyd fight by beating the great Brondigity but Pimp knocks Usyk because a undefeated world champion like Briedis ran him close in his hometown

 

If you can’t see the difference between Floyd’s careful match making and Usyk running the gauntlet on the road then I don’t know what to tell you. Floyd would be more respected if he didn’t stack the deck in his favour all the time. You are the one who is not rational saying things like “Floyd is better period” “End of discussion” when really it is a fair debate both are great fighters but Usyk is more respected because he is honest as the day is long where Floyd has a lot of skeletons in his closet that his fans chose to ignore.

 

And youre knocking a guy who lost only a handful of rounds his whole carrer with twice as many fights against better comp in pbf lmfao. Do you see how that works?

 

He did not fight better competition than Usyk. Maybe bigger names but it’s all about context which you continue to ignore.

 

Usyk is more respected here so let's get that straight off the rip. Ask boxers journalists and boxing channels who's greater and in a landslide pbf would be picked as greater and it's not really close to be honest. You can't refute my point about them switching careers because you know damn well if pbf had Usyks no one would say he's greater than usyk. Lmfao! This whole thread is a pathetic desperate cope for usyk nuthuggers nothing more. The guys on usyks resume aren't as good as the ones pbf fought it's that simple. Pbf was the best of his era and a top 15 atg usyk isn't a top 15 atg he's not a top 20 atg or even 25 atg. He's not even greater than wlad ffs. Beat some fighters on the top 100 atg list then we can talk until then GTFO with this nonsensical ****.

 

Yes he did cw is full of the prettiest girl in a room full of ugly women usyk was a true beauty queen but the rest not so much. Those guys he beat aren't highly regarded they won't be in any hof.
Pbf not only beat bigger names he also beat better fighters more champs and guys coming off great performances to. Miguel cotto ffs is better than anyone usyk ever fought

 

I did refute your point I said if Floyd had taken the same risks as Usyk yes he would be more respected but he didn’t he stayed in his safety arena at the MGM Grand where he routinely fought big names that were past their best. Boxing channels? LOL! Most of those clowns are so bias this forum has some of the most knowledgeable boxing fans going around. You still can’t refute my point about Usyk doing it as the away fighter, Floyd never did this. Like I said in my first post Floyd was a great fighter but a lot of his career was smoke and mirrors. What do Usyk fans have to cope with? He is recognised as the best fighter in the world by anyone who follows the sport. Funny that you down play guys like Usyk and Taylor winning the WBSS in less than 20 fights but you glaze Andre Ward for winning the super series.

 

LOL Cotto at 154? Who was already beaten by Pac and Margo in devastating fashion then at 154 lost to Trout. He gave Floyd hell but Trout clowned him. Beating Tony Bellew in the UK is on the same level as a washed Cotto at 154.

 

Why in the hell would pbf need to leave Vegas when he lived in Vegas the fight capital of the world. If Kiev was the fight capital of the world you best believe usyk would've fought there his whole career. Everyone knows that especially back then if you wanted to make a name for yourself you came to America to fight. As that old saying says don't hate the player hate the game.
So you didn't refute it getting in the ring itself especially with elite comp is taking a risk. Pbf beat more elite fighters than Usyk beat. AJ one of his best wins like wilder was clowned and mocked for being a stiff chinny bodybuilder now all of a sudden AJ is some hof boxer lmfao I mean you can't make this stuff up.

The level of boxers ward beat in the super 6 were on a higher level than the ones Taylor and usyk beat and he wasn't even supposed to win. Kessler Abraham and froch were all rated highly and thought of as greater than anyone taylor or usyk fought in their tournament. Also everyone knew usyk was going to win his tournament he was the heavy favorite. Whereas ward winning was a huge upset.

 

Lmfao! AJ and guy who was ktfo against ruiz a drunk??? Fury a guy who was embarrassed by a mma fighter?? Man stop!

 

Yeah I guess you are right Usyk just beat a bunch of bums and will never compare to the great Money Mayweather how dare anybody even suggest it.

 

That's more like it.

 

Brewster and Sanders over Wlad are examples of an Usyk sized guy beating a much larger highly ranked opponent. So is Ruiz over Joshua. And Byrd over Vitali.