Is Ali the HW GOAT?

Who is now on the best run in heavyweight boxing outside of Usyk, and is holding a belt.

If you don't get it, don't watch.

 

Because Usyk gave him the belt, even after the ibf gave him an extension for Fury. Parker is mandatory just like Dubois. I won't be rewatching, Dubois is just another belt warmer who doesn't stack up historically

 

A coin toss between him and Louis, but yeah, he's one of the GOATs.

 

I think so, though I'd consider a case for Joe Louis for sure.

 

Usyk is much higher on the general goat list. At HW, his size and CW record is irrelevant. He has beaten Fury and AJ, and remains unbeaten, but you can imagine him having problems with quite a few HWs in history.

 

Lennox Lewis beats Usyk.

As for whether Lewis would win in a head-to-head matchup against Ali, that’s something I'll leave for others to judge. However, there's one thing. I don’t think Ali would have done better, or outperformed Lewis statistically, had he competed in the same era against the same opposition. Lewis was the best in the ‘90s and early ‘00s, particularly when it came to facing bigger heavyweights.

 

80s Tyson an late 80s early 90s Holyfield would have beaten Lewis. Prime Holmes I think would’ve beaten Lewis too

 

That's why it foolish to consider H2H match ups when considering ATG status. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only thing that counts towards ATG status is what a fighter does in the ring at the pro level.

 

Ali is the greatest of all time both in the ring and even more so out of it and let's not forget he lost what would very likely have been three and a half of his prime years.

 

A lot of people do consider H2H these comparisons to some degree. Maybe not in a direct sense but when cross comparing opponents it's definitely a thing.

 

Ali is overrated both H2H and P4P Louis is better tbh

 

Kabayel. Dubois has the better collection of wins than Usyk if nothing else.

 

For me Ali is higher. 34 contenders beat vs 12. I do give credit for 2 divs so it's closer but Ali definitely beat a lot more top opposition

 

I think there were boxers with better technique than Ali especially when it comes to not getting hit a lot but they lacked Ali's chin and physical abilities in most cases.