Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather?

Impressive is subjective, that being said Mayweather's undefeated streak along with his accomplishments are simply better and more impressive than Usyk's accomplishments which have already been done by Evander Holyfield several decades ago.

People are also being too harsh on Mayweather never officially becoming undisputed champion though. It was significantly harder to hold more than 2 belts during Mayweather's prime due to sanctioning body politics. The man could of been undisputed twice at 147. First time was beating Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah was the undisputed 147 champion towards the end of the 3 belt era after beating Cory Spinks, Carlos Baldomir beat Judah while he was still champion but politics stripped Baldomir and only allowed him to keep the WBC/Ring/Lineal while Zab Judah for some reason kept the IBF. Mayweather beat both Judah and Baldomir but only kept the WBC.

The second time Mayweather should of been undisputed 147 champ was after beating Pacquaio for the WBO. Mayweather should of been the unified WBA, WBC and IBF champion going into the Pacquaio fight but Andre Berto was stripped of the IBF belt a couple of weeks after knocking out reigning IBF champion Jan Zaveck. Robert Guerrero would then beat Berto shortly after but wasn't recognized as the IBF champion when fighting Mayweather.

 

I think Berto vacated because the IBF wanted him to fight Randall Bailey (mandatory) but he wanted the Ortiz rematch. But yeah, if the IBF let him pursue the Ortiz fight (which ended up not happening then), his fight with Guerrero would have been for the IBF title.

 

He won Golden Gloves 3 times. That's a major tournament in the US. Floyd actually had an elite amatuer career. Yeah he didn't win in the world championships but he was 18. Usyk didn't win it until he was 24. When Usyk went to the Olympics the first time at 21, he didn't medal. At least Floyd won a bronze. To most, he was robbed of an opportunity to compete for gold. Basically, Floyd was definitely not a failed amatuer. I don't see why it's out of the realm of possibility that if Floyd stayed longer as an amatuer, he could have accomplished more.

 

It seems you have the ability to generate excuse for everything.

Alright, let's see you come up with an excuse for this one: Usyk became undisputed world champion in two weight classes, while Floyd never became an undisputed champion. What do you have to say about that?

 

Floyd is more hated than Bill Gates, I'm surprised the poll isn't much wider lol

Floyd didn't win Gold first time out, he was robbed. Did usyk win gold in his first try?

Floyd has more ranked wins (than usyk has wins)
More hof wins by far
Much greater longevity
Much better compu box stats
Way more skilled defensively
Had more power in lower weight categories before hand trouble
Etc
Etc
Etc

The fact we need to keep mentioning Usyks amateur background to big up his pro record says it all. Don't need to do this for other guys like Ali etc who won a gold medal first try

Only on this or other forums is Usyk greater, because everyone hates Floyd

Why don't you create a thread comparing usyk to Pacquiao? We all know why, because Pacquiao would win hands down, because like Floyd he too is much greater and not nearly as hated lol

Long story short

Usyk greater amateur
Floyd greater pro
Who cares about amateur? Floyd greater

 

Irrelevant due to fans regarding Floyd as the best in his various weight classes and achieving lineal status.

 

I don't know how what I said are excuses. I was specifically addressing their amatuer careers.

 

Pbf was lineal at two different weight classes simultaneously at 147 and 154 that's very impressive to say the least. He was also lineal 4 different weight classes with the lone exception being 140. You're the one with excuses here.

 

Great post and this shouldn't even be a question. Mayweather was at the top of the pros for years.

 

Facts I've also made the point that if usyk had pbfs career and record from 130-154 and pbf had Usyk amateur career and his cw-hw career no here would say pbf is greater. Usyk is more liked here that's it and that's why he's winning the poll.

 

1998 until 2015 is a long *** time

 

Not only that but when he faced Canelo Mayweather was already passed his best and STILL thrashed Canelo with incredible ease.

 

Popularity contest for sure
Loma was greater than Ray Leonard and Ray Robinson a few years back, but when that BS was exposed, they jump on usyks coat tails as the goat

It's sad, because he's definitely a great fighter, an all time great in fact and doesn't need to be overhyped. He's not a greater boxer than Floyd. He just doesn't have the numbers or longevity

I personally don't think he's better either, but that's at least subjective and more difficult to prove. However 10-12 good wins in just over 10 years is not as good as 25 plus in over 15 years. That's just a fact