Two P4P greats.. & 2 of my favourite fighters of all time but who would you say was the overall greater fighter & why? They actually fought to a split Decision in 1929 but Loughran definitely won it.. Walker seems to get his dues & rightly so but I don't think Loughran quite gets the recognition he deserves still.
For me its clearly Loughran. Walker was capable of beating Loughran. Loughran was capable of scaling peaks at LHW and HW Walker could not. Walkers clearly an ATG but he does not stand out among his peers. Loughran stands out. Or he should stand out. Loughran has a case to be LHW GOAT and best HW to never win a belt.
Good question but have to go with Walker... going from welterweight to heavyweight and remaining a force, if not champ, is something very, very few boxers have ever accomplished. Just because he wasn't a Fancy Dan jab and circle guy didn't mean Walker wasn't every bit the skilled boxer that Loughran was. It's just a different type of science, a more difficult one in my opinion.
Loughran was named Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Year twice.. in 1929/31. He fought 11 HOFers beating 9 of them. Here's his record against each: Greb 1–4–1 Tunney 0–1 Walker 1–0 Smith 1–1 Delaney 0–1–1 Carpentier 1–0 Baer 1–0 Stribling 1–2 Slattery 1–0 Braddock 1–0 Sharkey 1–1 .. & apparently he was such a smart operator that he purposely tried to finish each round while fighting in his own corner.. that allowed him to sit down at the bell while his opponents walked across the ring at the close of each round.. Walker next..
Walker ousted five Hall of Fame fighters in a 16-year career .. getting the better of 10 rivals who outweighed him by 20 pounds or more.. he faced 18 world champions or future champions & he's the only former WW champ (Ring era) to be ranked as a top ten heavyweight - a feat unlikely to be repeated ever.. knocked out just twice in 163 fights across all those divisions.. a testament to his iron chin & tenacity. & i still can't wrap my head around his HW run.. beat #6 rated HW Johnny Risko twice, outpointed & dropped the 210 lbs Bearcat Wright, fought future lineal champion Jack Sharkey to a draw, beat #4 rated King Levinsky, outpointed197 lbs Paulino Uzcudun & finally lost to the great Max Schmelling.. still took the fight to him tho.. Both these men were special fighters.
It horses for courses type question, Walker will lose against elite technical boxer movers, and Loughran was a bit of a spoiler in the mould of a smaller John Ruiz About 2 of those should of been in the HOF. The standard for the 20s/30s is way lower than the 80s/90s
Ruiz being compared to Loughran is a first for me. Slattery, Braddock and Carpentier don’t belong in the HOF, the latter two maybe due to cultural impact but they’re nothing to flex about beating imo. You can debate Smith, Sharkey and Baer but I’d say the rest certainly belong.
Ottke, Kalambay, Michael Watson and Bomber Graham are better boxers than nearly all of those men and they aren't in the HOF. Neither are John Ruiz or Chris Byrd. For me Loughran was all about his jab and spoiling and little else, hence the John Ruiz comparison.
It's horses for courses, but I think he beats Walker H2H. I think he moves and picks Walker off. Walker had probems with boxer movers. Ottke also has a top class resume beating most of the best at 168 during his era and retiring undefeated