I'm going to watch every Floyd Mayweather fight: TKO1 Jerry Coopoer

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nobody can stop me.

    I'll get at least one a week though in the beginning maybe a bit more than that. I'm going to watch Floyd Mayweather from his pro debut through to the circus with Connor McGregor, everything in between. I'll be looking at style, performance, running through the opponent, having just the best time. Everyone will just ignore everything I write and argue about Manny Pacquiao probably, but it's not the destination - it's to travel.

    Please feel free to join in! The subject of the thread will be the fight most recently under consideration and i'll change the title accordingly. Let me get the fight out first, please don't supersede.

    Much love! And much love and respect to the Pretty Boy as he was soon to become.

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    01 - TKO2 Roberto Apodaca
    02 - UD4 Reggie Sanders
    03 - TKO1 Jerry Cooper
     
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    1 - TKO2 Robert Apodaca

    The Opponent: Apodaca (0-0) has the name of a debutant victim, looked like a debutant victim, and very much was a 0-0 lamb to the slaughter for Olympic bronze medallist Floyd Mayweather. The only thing that might have gone wrong for Floyd was that Apodaca was Mexican, and although it was faded, October 1996 was still a dangerous time to be fighting a no-name Mexican. This one was safe though - his sole professional victory against Juan Jose Martinez via TKO in October 1997. However, after two additional defeats, Apodaca retired with a professional record of 1 win and 5 losses.

    Weight: 130lbs
    Distance: 4 rounds
    Title: None.
    Worth knowing: Floyd Mayweather Snr. was languishing in jail at the time of his son's debut. A difficult thing for a 19 year old to deal with on such a big night.

    The Fight: Floyd looks very relaxed at the bell, comes out serpentine and boxing behind a very fast left, left a little low too although he doesn't wait long to get the rights over - he knows what he has here within seconds. Described by commentary as "a power puncher - a guy who can hurt you with one punch" and to be fair, he would remain so for some pounds. He's over his front foot a little bit in the mid point of round one but gets what he wants from it with a hard body punch after pressuring the space and getting Apodaca to the ropes - two sickening body shots follow and Apodaca spent much of the last minute falling over his own front foot, but he's not providing any kind of pressure. I'd say the decision to let him out of the round was a conscious on on the part of Floyd, he hardly throws another meaningful punch after that left hook to the body which brought on an eight count and a rather curt "do you want some more?" form the referee.

    Apodaca answered in the affirmative but didn't give it much in round two as Floyd scored a bodypunch stoppage without really breaking a sweat. Floyd looked absolutely Mexican his own self. The way he positioned himself for the long hook to the body, adjusting his positioning against a dipping opponent with high gloves, would take a tear to a glass eye.

    Mayweather: 1*, 2*,
    Apodaca:

    *Apodaca down.


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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Delusional BUT Determined Full Member

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    It’s a right of passage to watch all of Floyd Mayweather just once. Similarly I like to watch Sanchez’s title reign, Holyfield’s cruiserweight run and Sung Kil Moons career always in an episodic fashion in the afternoon one a day just really absorb it.
     
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    2 - UD4 Reggie Sanders

    The Opponent: Reggie Sanders (1-1) was a step up I suppose in that 1-1 is technically a superior record to 0-0 - reflected perhaps in the fact that Floyd was cut in this fight (how long until that happened again?) and lost a round on one of the judge's scorecards!
    Weight: 130lbs
    Distance: 4 rounds
    Title: None.
    Worth knowing: "The Assassin" was also Floyd's first southpaw opponent in the pro ranks.

    The Fight: Give Sanders his due: the man, on route to become a professional loser, came to fight. Interesting then that Mayweather is much more static than we saw him in his first fight, he's leading with the right, applying pressure, clearly the genesis of the Pretty Boy style distinct from Money is here. Mayweather will delighted traditionalists here with his surrounding footwork, keeping his lead foot outside Reggie's left foot and besides being technically sure he is very very cool in terms of temperament, although I thought he got away with turning his back here will dipping out of punches at one point.

    Reggie begins the second round very aggressively, Mayweather ditches most of it, keeping low, but gets snapped with a very nice southpaw jab - Mayweather steps back into the Philly Shell, giving Reggie a different look, before stealing the first half of the round with hooks. There's that left hand to the body again - joyful seeing Mayweather throw to the body with impunity, I like it a lot. Left hands his way home to a clearer round victory. Nice swap of shots there - Mayweather gets cuffed with a flat right hand after landing a left to the body, here's a lesson for the fighter, as the crowd begins to boo him as he tries to think his way past Reggie's third round success. Somewhere in this rammy, he was cut over his right eye and I think Mayweather decided to have a little think about that too. I think Mayweather landed the better punches in this round but I'd presume that this is the round taht went to Reggie and that's justifiable - he stepped off though, tried to force Mayweather to lead through the cut, which was a mistake. A brush with immortality! Although - not really.

    Mayweather told off for pushing/spinning Reggie, you can see the deep urge within him to control his opponent's positioning already. Referee a bit fussy here, but let the superstar take it. A very irritated crowd watches Mayweather on his bike and you do wonder if an aggressive southpaw was the wisest opponent for the young man's second fight...on the other hand, he's here to learn. I wish this had gone six. Entertaining, interesting, and shockingly well-balanced. Judge Sandy Pino found the third for Reggie, the other judges had it 4-0, both cards are fair.

    Mayweather:1,2,3,4.
    Sanders:


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    3 - TKO1 Jerry Cooper

    The Opponent: Jerry Cooper was another little shuffle up the ranks, 6-3 at the time of the fight for all that professional loser status would become his. He actually had a decent run after this although it was halted in a disastrous defeat to Angel Manfredy in 2000 before staggering on to 16-16-1. Fair old mullet on him, though not elite.
    Weight: 130lbs
    Distance: 6 rounds
    Title: None.
    Worth knowing: A decade before they would meet, Floyd and Oscar share a ring as Oscar is pitted against Miguel Angel Gonzalez in the main.

    The Fight: The jab Mayweather lands out of the corner is absolutely disgusting, Cooper wasn't ready, and Mayweather just rattled his bones. Seconds later, a jab to the body drops Cooper straight on his but - after that, Mayweather just wants to have fun. Four punch combos, flat feet, open, two handed attacks inviting the straight left, Mayweather was in a rush here and this one could have been stopped before Cooper got knocked between the ropes - I felt sorry for him and so did the referee who pulled him at about 1:15.

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  7. McCallumsJab

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    I watched the first 2 fights and amazingly I do think 19yo Floyd is P4P better than any Floyd at 147 or above. He's just so much more fluid, faster and his hands were probably much better pre Carlos Hernandez. I mean the win over the other Hernandez who was a top champ was punch perfect, Corrales even better when he was an underdog.

    He really had the perfect storm though, Floyd Sr and Roger were world class but lacked stamina to give their family generational wealth. Floyd learnt from 3 of the best technicians in history (including Jeff here). He also grew up relatively deprived, which gave him the hunger for boxing. All of those points made alongside living the life made him maybe more the generational. I mean he hung out at clubs, but didn't drink and would run 6 miles back home.
     
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  8. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Obviously these guys are the lowest of the low level, but Floyd was just textbook. His jab,the timing, the fluidity

    I don't care if he's a narcissistic pos, his ability and IQ are off the chart
     
  9. McCallumsJab

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    They aren't great but technically they look decent. Let's not forget Floyd made Genaro Hernandez look like a cab driver
     
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  10. Smoochie

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    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Oh Hernandez was the real deal for sure. I was meaning the very early guys
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @McGrain I can't remember what fight it was but i remember in one of Mayweather's early fights it may of been vs a Mexican fighter ? Mayweather actually get's caught with a flush punch that momentarily gives him some pause. It's one of the rare times you see that happen to Mayweather i'd be curious to know the fighters name when you come across it.
     
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  13. cross_trainer

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    Someone needs to put a stop to this, before it's too late.
     
  14. McGrain

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    I like this - I think the conclusion will be that the most exciting version of Floyd was around 130 lbs and he made a bit of a more cautious transition after the first Castillo fight and we saw his body fail him, whether hands or shoulder.

    Then we get to what I think is likely the most complete fighter when he destroys Gatti and then another transition into a more efficient fighter as he goes up to 147lbs and starts completely shutting down opponents and increasing his punching efficiency.

    Then there's the annoying side of his Money Mayweather self where his timing of opponent and choice of opponent leaves room for debate.

    A brilliant fighter ending his career with the shame of the last two fights whilst claiming to be the best ever.

    I am really looking forward to the fight by fight breakdown. I'm probably misremembering lots of Floyd's career/stylistic nuances.

    Kudos, Macca
     
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