Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather?

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Who Was More Impressive AND better For The Sport??

  1. Oleksandr Usyk

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    65.4%
  2. floyd

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    37.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz in decent shape would not be a heavyweight. In terms of functional mass he is smaller than Usyk.

    No way to know if height and reach would bother Mayweather. I doubt Barkley has the skills to make use of those advantages in the first place. Kalambay is much shorter than Barkley and beat him easily
     
  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep they are so triggered by the notion that anyone would dare think that Usyk is better than Floyd when the thread title doesn't even say that it says who is more impressive. They have the hide to say "Fury was coming off going life and death with an MMA fighter' to try and discredit the win by Usyk when Pac had literally been sparked out cold by Marquez one of the most brutal KO's of all time.

    It was pretty obvious that Fury didn't take Ngannou seriously at all and the only reason Fury took that fight was to duck Usyk for as long as he could. Floyd fans choose to ignore context that is why they love the saying "No excuses" but only when it suits their agenda deep down they know that Floyd was a cherry picker who stacked the deck in his favor. They know he doesn't have balls like Usyk and that he doesn't come close to Usyk in integrity.
     
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  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac scored some of his best wins post Marquez and wasn't stopped in the following 9 years. So what is your argument here?

    Fighting once a year seems like a massive **** you to boxing fans. Hardly the action of someone concerned with integrity or legacy.

    Id take an Usyk that fights 3 times a year over a fearless Usyk that only fights once a year and engages in rematch after rematch rather than fighting new opponents
     
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  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    That is my point Fury went on to have a pretty good performance against Usyk in a losing effort in the first fight after getting embarrassed by Ngannou.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk's 358-15 amateur and pro record combined and all his accomplishments >>> Floyd's 134-9 and all of his.

    As said, Floyd was raised and groomed from the crib to be a great by world champions and world class boxers, by fighters who shared a ring with the likes of among many others SRL, JCC Sr, Pernell Whitaker, Oscar, Kostya Tszyu. Incredible.

    Whereas, conversely, Usyk didn't even take up the sport until he was 15 y/o

    But luckily the boxing gods blessed Usyk with an abundance of natural talent and physical gifts which Floyd could only dream of being blessed with.

    Hence why Usyk went undefeated over the last four years of his amateur career despite taking up the sport way later than Floyd did and Floyd was still being bested multiple times in his last few years in the amateurs, including twice in the last four months of his amateur career even though he'd been raised from the crib to be a champion.

    Truth be told, even though Floyd was way more experienced than Usyk he simply didn't possess the natural talent and skills Usyk did.

    Which let's be honest is obviously the reason why he had to joust PEDs up his ass, duck like crazy, cherrypick, stack the deck, cripple opponents at the negotiating table with catchweights and rehydration clauses, refused to ever travel, refuse to allow opponent's to wear perfectly legal commission approved puncher's gloves, cheat, elbow, octopus grab.

    Let's be honest, only mentally weak fighters who lack the God-given natural talent to achieve greatness the honourable, honest, courageous, and righteous way have to resort to these desperate, dishonourable and ultimately cowardly measures. Usyk has never done any of this and everything he has achieved has been the honourable and virtuous way.

    He's literally the complete antithesis of Floyd when it comes to all of that and we Usyk fans are a reflection of him and all he represents and, likewise, Floyd fans are a reflection of Floyd and everything he represents.

    They value PED cheats, cheating, serial ducking and cheating, deck-stacking, crippling the opponent at the negotiating table with catchweights and rehydration clauses, fighters who refuse to travel, dirty tactics, fighters who maliciously smear their rivals as PED cheats, and we won't even get into all the many unspeakable things he did outside of the ring which they also deeply admire about him too. This is who they are what they value and if Usyk did a fraction of these things they would crucify him on a molten cross for it. When people tell you who they are, believe them.

    One thing even the Floyd fans know deep down is that if Floyd and Usyk were the same size Floyd would never fight a remotely near prime version of him in a billion years, let alone in Ukraine on a deck stacked against him. Whereas, conversely, Usyk would jump at the chance to fight Floyd in his back garden with Floyd Sr,. Uncle Roger and Uncle Jeff as the three judges

    And if they were the same size Usyk would 100% give him a lesson in levels :deal::deal::deal:

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    Serge destroys

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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Manny ''Pac Man'' Pacquiao names the top five fighters he ever fought (actually six)

    MAB
    Morales
    JMM
    Oscar
    Cotto
    Margarito

    No Floyd, Manny? Floyd did beat or arguably deserve the decision against some of those guys

    To be fair to Manny, that semi-retired way past prime, inactive, drug fiend Oscar who had only fought once in almost three years and not at all in a whole year arguably beat Floyd

    And even though Floyd did beat leprechaun JMM the victory is void because he deliberately came in over weight for their catchweight bout

    Floyd did do a much worse job against Cotto and Oscar than Manny did albeit that same way past it Oscar who arguably beat Floyd

    Floyd did get beaten up by a much smaller Morales in sparring, to the extent Morales ran him out of the gym

    And he did duck the hell out of Margarito

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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Usyks best win was a humiliated fat guy who was schooled by a ufc fighter. You're an irrational troll. Pbfs resume is clearly better than usyks log off.
     
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  8. AdamT

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    The same fat guy who lost to bum mcdermott and had to cheat and rise off the canvas to beat light punching cw steve Cunningham

    Trolls think he can beat Ali, yet got boxed silly by Cunningham lol
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    Pbf a cherry picker with over 20 world champs in 5 weight classes log off youre doing way too much. Usyk will never rank as greater than pbf in any historical context only a fool would try to argue Usyk being better than pbf who's accomplished so much more against better competition. No boxer will agree with you no reputable boxing journalist will either the whole thread is dumb AF and one of the biggest copes I've ever seen to try and tear down the superior boxer and prop up an inferior one. Usyk is a great fighter but he's not greater than pbf why is that so hard for some of you to admit? People here are so agenda and hate driven lacking any rational thought and credibility that they will never keep it real even when the topic is ridiculous as this. Whats next? Usyk is greater than SRR I'm sure you'll have idiots here trying to make a case for him while tearing down SRR and propping up usyk.

    Pbf>usyk .:deal: Deal with it
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, a UFC fighter on his debut beat Fury up and embarrassed him
     
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  11. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    If that’s your definition of “Beat him up and embarrassed him” that’s pretty hilarious. :lol: Yes… Fury got way more work that he should’ve in that one but “Beaten up and embarrassed” is a stretch.

    And how did ngannou do against Usyk’s 2nd best win again?? (His best win is peak Gassiev to win the Tourney) lol :lol: Now THAT is getting beat up and embarrassed!! Unfortunately for “THE HARDEST PUNCHER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE!” Joshua was as focused for that fight as he was for Usyk ;) Too bad Fury took ngannou lightly but oh well. His stupidity. Point stands though :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your a world champion (Fury) fighting a person who has NEVER stepped inside a pro ring(Francis) and not only does Fury get rocked AND dropped somehow Francis last the distance with Fury. Embarrassing.
     
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  13. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Margarito qualifies as a duck Usyk has ducked lots of guys. He's a random contender who lost to multiple guys Floyd beat.
    That's no different than Usyk not fighting Lebedev or Lerena.
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a controversial decision according to all who witnessed Fury get floored and touched up by a 37 year old mma fighter

    Overrated anthony joshua, ring ring Dubois :roflmao:

    When Dubois gets smashed around by these new upcoming prospects in his early 30s yall better not say he is shot like u did femi
     
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  15. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if you think fury took that fight serious then you’re and irrational fool, if you’re gonna say something stupid like that then how about your boy getting outboxed by an mma fighter who only lost because he gassed out.
     
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