How would you rate Vasily Lomachenko's career overall

How time flies.. beautiful fighter to watch, made a few career mistakes.. for example signing with snakes like Arum.. shudda gone the K2 & Usyk route.. too obstinate about 135 too... he's a fighter that I view could have been even greater than he was, but he turned professional quite late.. Overall I'd say he gets into the HOF one day 100%.. Happy retirement champ. Thanks for the memories. God bless.

Slim pickings in boxing right now with regards to finding fighter's to get behind.. its full of arseholes, weight grifters & egotistical entitled brats.. think I & many others will be joining u soon Loma lol.. its a fkin hard watch this sport today.

 

Amazing fighter. Wish he stayed at featherweight though.

 

The 3 'losses' he had could easily have been 2 wins and a draw. He could be going down as 20-0-1 right now.

He's had a fantastic career, but the way he was looking prior to moving up to lightweight and his amateur career. I expected even more.. He should really have been going down as a top 10 on Greatest fighter of all time lists, he had the ability.

 

Awesome fighter, dared to be great to the detriment of his all time standing IMO. He was way too small above 130 against modern guys “that size”…

I wish we could return to people just fighting at their natural weights.

 

Hall of Famer for sure, lesser fighters have gone in by doing less, but I don't rank him as an ATG. He had the skills and the ability for it, but at the end of the day, his career is just not ATG worthy, it's as simple as that. He beat a lot of champions, but the word ''champion'' has lost its weight for a while. Guys like Martinez, Sosa, Crolla, Pedraza and Commey were title holders who briefly held belts, nothing more than just mere footnotes, calling them champions is an insult. But the main problem with Loma's resume is that even his biggest wins are against fighters who just didn't do much.

Rigo had tons of potential to be great and he's a H2H beast at 122, yet his entire legacy rests on one win over Donaire. Iirc, his only win over a ring top 10 ranked fighter other than Donaire was Ramos, which makes for a tragically thin resume. Then there's also the fact that he was 37 years old and blown up by 2 entire divisions when Loma beat him. The performance was dominant, but the negatives far outweigh the positives, and it's not as if tons of greats haven't absolutely destroyed blown up fighters superior to Rigo (Ali and Frazier with Foster, Floyd with Marquez, Foster with Tiger, Monzon with Napoles, Tyson with Spinks, Armstrong with Wolgast etc). Walters is similar in the sense that his resume is thin outside of a Donaire win (which unlike with Rigo, says little because Donaire was never a Featherweight). And we all know what a disappointment Russell ended up being. I'll take away nothing from the Linares win though, Loma deserves the flowers he gets for it.

I do genuinely question Loma's intangibles though. He manages to snatch defeat at the face of victory (Especially against Teo, and him not making the fight clear for him in the 12th vs Haney), and he just doesn't seem to care as much as he should. Apparently he only got hit a mere 40 times vs Kambosos (most fighters get hit more during sparring in a single day) and he just kinda ****ed off and we haven't heard of him for over a year now, not even a potential next fight or anything of the sort. I'd normally suspect the Haney decision affected him, but there were other times in his career where he just kinda stalled and didn't even bother with ranked fighters (his entire 126 reign, Nakatani and Ortiz). For all the talks about him being a legacy fighter, he just seems to accept whoever is thrown in front of him instead of actively chasing.

Edit: ****in ell, I did not read the part about him retiring. That makes it even worse imo, imagine just ending your career with Kambosos when there's still a score to settle with guys like Tank or Shakur.

 

Nah he legitimately lost the Lopez fight you can't do virtually nothing for 6 rounds and then lose the 12th round big and win a decision.

Agreed the Salido fight was BS with the low blows and Salido coming in overweight, and Haney decision was very controversial.

But no excuses for Lopez fight he lost that one legitimately.

 

Amazing talent. Amazing on film. Career management was a bit of a shambles, as though he was trying to do too much too quickly because he turned pro late and had injury breaks.

 

I'd consider Loma's career to be very good possibly lower tier great but I do question his tactics in some of his close losses.

The Haney fight I did think Loma won 7-5 but for me he didn't stamp his authority on the fight in championship rounds.

Likewise the Lopez fight he fought so cautious like a sparring session for 6 roundss until he started to open up. And despite coming back and making it closer in the 2nd half of the fight, yet again it was his opponent Lopez showing more desire to win in the 12th round.

That for me is why Loma falls short of being an ATG I just can't imagine other ATGs letting fights slip away like that. It has to be Loma's boxing IQ in professional ranks in some of his close fights has been questionable to say the least.

 

I like the GRJ win a lot. The rest of his career was good but less special, and he lost the Teo fight which was really the biggest fight of his career.

As far as 3+ division champs go, he’s below Oscar, Marquez and Tito. He’s maybe just barely ahead of Inoue and Tank and will likely go down beneath them. MAB and Morales should be ahead of him.

 

Hall of Fame.

 

Should be a first ballot hof fighter no doubt about it.

 

It's legit the biggest disappointment in my time following the sport.