Rocky Marciano all time heavyweight ranking?

Number 1 in my heart

Show me your list perhaps? I wonder what it looks like, you’ve been studying a long time.

 

i have him top 3 but anything within the top 5 is acceptable, top 10 is too low

 

He's my number 3 as well.

 

I forget. 6-7, something like that.

 

I have him in the top 3 with Ali and Louis, he had a genuine good shot of beating both men. However, Louis and Ali would have had an easier time with some of the other greats because of style and Marciano would have had an easier time with others that gave Ali and Louis a hard time.

I think the era you came up in helps determine how you rate each fighter so I can respect most opinions. The factors that are important is resume-resilience-determination-and recovery- Marciano fought the best of his time and drew no color line and retired at the time he felt himself losing interest in the things that made him great.

I think it would be totally unreasonable to rate him outside the top 10 or even top 5 but to each his own.

 

Ali, Louis and Marciano.

 

Redid my list this morning and now have him at 29. Anything in the 25-50 range is acceptable.

 

The thing is do people take into account H2H ability aswell ? Because I don't rate Marciano that highly H2H compared to other notable Heavyweights.

Liston
Ali
Foreman
Holyfield
Tyson
Usyk
Louis prime
Wladimir
Vitali
Holmes
Lewis
Bowe

Etc.

I'd rate all those names above Marciano quite comfortably in regards to H2H.

 

Didn't know you were such a huge fan of Liston (you listed him twice) I kid I kid.
But yeah I generally do which is why I rate Usyk higher then Marciano (by one spot) I think his wins were much more impressive because they were much harder H2H if that makes sense and because he was fighting SHWs in all of his fights whereas Marciano was fighting LHWs for most of his big wins.

 

Oh did I ? Damn I'll edit that.

Yeah the issue I have with Marciano is that some of the notable Heavyweights over 200 pounds like Bob Baker, Nino Valdez, he didn't fight and that for me leaves a bit of a question mark on his H2H ability.

 

I'd rate him right behind ST Gordon in head to head context. I didn't even know we were allowed to consider that. If that's the case I have him firmly at 132.

 

Ngl I love your work. never fails to get a laugh outta me.

 

Probably just outside the top 5. Personally I rank for example Wlad's 11 year unbeaten streak over top opposition over Marciano's three year one, despite the losses before and after.