Floyd Mayweather vs Todays field

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, May 28, 2023.


  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Also, who the hell have Spence and Crawford even fought? People were amp'd up for Crawford vs Pistol for god's sake :hang

    If Floyd did that everyone here would be crying.
     
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  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I like how you didn't dispute any points I made, nor did you even use proper spelling or grammar.

    /Golfclap
     
  3. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I could have easily done that but it don't make sense because I know what your MO is. I am not entertaining knuckle heads today.
     
  4. Aden Yuan

    Aden Yuan Boxing Fan banned Full Member

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    Castillo is definitely beating Shakur and Loma. Castillo's style is taylor made for Loma and Shakur. Castillo has this weird trait where the more defensive his opponents are, the more effective he is, something I can't explain but Castillo offense increases the more defensive his opponents are which is why Floyd has so much trouble with him, which is a testament to how good Floyd is beating Castillo twice. The first time I got Floyd winning but I can see why people say he lost, that first match was the definition of a preference battle. If you are basing off effective shots landed to slow your opponent to a decision, Floyd clearly wins, but if you are basing off of volume damage, Castillo gets the edge. I value the former criteria, but in there second fight Floyd beats the breaks off of Castillo.
     
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  5. Aden Yuan

    Aden Yuan Boxing Fan banned Full Member

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    The fact that Mayweather can fight people after finding a ways to cripple them just shows how effective and previleged Mayweather as a boxer is. Hey why can't someone like Oscar wait till Floyd was worn out or Floyd had his hands broken or Floyd was inactive to fight him and still lose? Hey why can't Pacquiao wait until Mayweather is 37-38 to fight him? You always giving these disadvantageous circumstances to Floyd but you never translate your perspective onto your other favorite fighters. If Shane and Floyd had their ages reversed and Floyd beat Shane, I can guarantee you would say oh Shane was too young, I can guarantee it.
     
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  6. Aden Yuan

    Aden Yuan Boxing Fan banned Full Member

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    This just goes to show that Floyd is a special fighter who can fight under any circumstance. You could fight Floyd at any time to increase your chances of winning but for some reason Floyd goes against the odds and still beats you because Floyd is a special fighter who can adapt and longetivize his fighting style to suit any opponents. Floyd could literally break his elbow 3 weeks before a fight and he could still beat someone like Lomachenko.
     
  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    You do realize that Floyd is 2 years older tha Pac. Unless you can give a logical explaination how it benifits an older fighter to age out a younger fighter, I think that excuse needs to be shelved.
     
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  8. kirk

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    I think prime Crawford would have a good chance, but todays Craw isnt prime.
     
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  9. Aden Yuan

    Aden Yuan Boxing Fan banned Full Member

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    SMH I was literally vouching for Floyd bruh
     
  10. The one

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    All is true but didn’t he tell everyone up front he was in for the money. And if I have the quote, correct wasn’t it legacies don’t pay bills only one I think could beat him is Bud.
     
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  11. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    All fighters do not age the same.

    Lennox Lewis at twenty-one wasn't as skilled as Lennox Lewis at thirty. Mike Tyson at twenty-one was more skilled than he was at thirty. Bodies break down different based on their lives, genetics etc.

    Do you believe Tyson was in his prime when he faced Lewis? Sixteen years after becoming heavyweight champ?

    Pacquaio relied on speed and high volume punching to overwhelm his opponents. These deteriorate faster as you age where Floyd relied on tecnique and careful punch selection, often counting his and his opponets landed punches per round in real time.

    High volume high energy fighters tend to be worse off as they age as their bodies can't do what their minds tell them to. On the other hand guys like Floyd and Bernard Hopkins who rely less on their physical gifts can fight at high level longer.
     
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  12. Philosopher

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    Don't know about that. Floyd was a defensive master and this kind of reaction, fast twitch defence is affected by moving up weights and age. See RJJ for reference point. Floyd may have been an unpleasant human being but he was an extraordinary fighter.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    None:deal:
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf had 2 fights after beating pac and retired whereas pac fought on years after and is fighting again next month. Help it make sense.
     
  15. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Just because Mayweather retired, doesn't mean he couldn't fight on if he wished. His style ages better than Pacquiao's. (Floyd still does exhibitions and looks great)

    By his own admission Floyd didn't want brain damage, he didn't want to fight on too long and wind up with Parkinsons. Those are Mayweathers words. Floyd said boxing was a business to him and he was a genius at it.

    Mayweather's words, not mine.

    Floyd retired and went on to be a high level promoter, something Manny can't do. Manny doesn't have the intellect Mayweather does. Pacquaio doesn't possess the business acumen.

    Pac doesn't care if he gets brain damage, he didn't care when Marquez ate his soul in the fourth fight, obliterating his face as he sent him to the shadow realm.

    Pacquiao is not a businessman like Floyd is. Fighting at age 46 is not the act of a rational man. Hell, Pacquaio probably already has brain damage. Floyd doesn't, he is articulate as ever.

    Make sense?
     
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