where does anthony joshua rank all time ?

He's locked out the top 150 and the key is in the heavy duty shredder. I think even John L Sullivan would beat Ruiz

 

If there's a super fight that's to take place to determine who the best is, and it doesn't happen, how are you able to say who the best was? You've spouted a bunch of nonsense like a typical fanboy. The mega fight didn't happen. Are you arguing it wasn't a mega fight now?

Joshua was a 10-1 favorite against Parker, his best win.

Joshua was barely a 2-1 favorite against Wilder when odds were offered in 2018. Wilder would have been Joshua's best win, easily.

You are trying to rewrite history. The fight didn't happen, largely due to Andy destroying Joshua.

Joshua wasn't better than Andy Ruiz in 2019, yet you're certain he was better than Wilder. Absurd.

 

He is only in contention for HOF bodybuilding and inspirational quotes. I"d say top 30 or top 50.

 

If we're including amateur achievements (world silver and Olympic gold), then surely he has to rank in the top 20. If not, somewhere around the 30s - just because people have a weird personal vendetta against him, despite not knowing the man, doesn't diminish his achievements on paper. Not an ATG, but one of the best of his era.

 

Top 30 is fair. Corbett beat Sullivan in 1892 and it is a very crowded field at this point with a lot of names in the hat since that first Queensbury fight.

There is no shame in this, either. He's going to finish with wins over WladKlit, Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Martin, Pulev, Breazeale, Takam, Wallin and Helenius. Put all the asterixs by it you want, it's not bad.

 

I think he gets half a pass in the Dubois loss. Age catching up with him.

 

I love AJ, all the drama he's given us. Very few ducks, entertaining style.
When he hangs the gloves up we will miss him.

But yeah, he's at the lower end of the top 50 I suppose

 

I haven't sat down to really analyse it, but my gut feeling is to say that 30 - 50 seems fair.
I do think that AJ has been a perfectly decent contender \ alphabet champion over the years - and does get a lot of unfair criticism. That said, his competition here (in an all time sense) against some great and very good HW fighters is pretty stiff. So I would be reluctant to rank him higher.

 

Well, I just provided you with facts. All of the independent rankings, from The Ring through TBRB to American-centered ESPN had Joshua as number 1 heavyweight in the world from April 2017 to June 2019. On top of that, he held 3 out of 4 major belts. Therefore, he was the best in the division at that time. Not really hard to understand, but hey, a mind of a hater is not known to function properly I guess.

 

I couldn't say and wouldn't deem myself qualified enough to really know.
I only really talk about what I watched first hand rather than pretending to be a historian.
I have seen many younger posters on here giving opinions on an era they haven't seen and spouting complete rubbish.

I would think in the grand scheme of things it would be rather favourable for him, in that he was an Olympic gold medallist, won 3 HW titles in 3 separate fights, won unifications, became a 2 time HW champion and was the top HW for a period of time with one of the best resumes of his era.
I think that would hold him in good stead.
But who knows?

 

So you feel it is still very much undecided between Joshua and Fury also, I guess?

 

Yeah, according to this logic Fury was never the best heavyweight in the world either.

 

LOL He does act wierd. I just hope he doesnt start singing after a good win.

 

Really good but not a great champion.

Top 30, just.

 

Goodness, it's so hard, because that Ruiz loss just wrecks it all.
I mean, without that, he's right up there. He still IS up there. He could absolutely beat any old fighter on his night.
A 6'5 power punching afflete with pretty decent fundamentals and a winning smile when he's not online with Eddie Chambers.
But that Ruiz loss showed a fat LHW fill-in who never beat a top fighter could also stop him.
It's hard to sort of process that.
How does the guy who boxed really well against Wlad and stopped a really motivated Wlad with a flashdisk in his robe lose to Snickers Ruiz?
It's just demented.
If Ruiz had gone on to beat Wilder or Fury or even Whyte back then or just SOMEONE under forty considered a top fighter, it would have made it easier. God knows Hearn prayed for that.
But it never happened.
Ruiz isn't good!
So where do we put AJ now? He's still a very dangerous fighter.
I don't know, but can't wait for the book and rap album.