Is Marciano...

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  1. Maxanthony86

    Maxanthony86 New Member Full Member

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    Considered a slow puncher?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Not compared to Joe Joyce,but he certainly wasn't fast, he made up for it by being relentless.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    His short arms added something to it.

    Archie Moor compared it to fighting a propeller .
     
  4. Boxerboxer222

    Boxerboxer222 New Member Full Member

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    I'd say average or maybe slightly above average for his size. It's more the quantity of punches he threw which is different from pure speed and more about endurance.
     
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  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Something Joyce also used to make up for being slow
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano did not have great defence,but it was definitely better than Joyce's.
     
  7. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

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    Rocky's power punch output was enormous, and his short-reach punches seem to me more like club blows with brutal leverage. He often takes a wide swing for his power punches, though, which I think makes him seem slower.
    He doesn't throw smooth combinations like Joe Louis, but the single power punch itself had good speed.

    In his fight against Rex Layne, the commentator mentioned that Marciano outspeeds Layne. So he surely wasn't slow. However, boxing fans typically don't compare him to contender-level fighters of his time (like Layne). People compare him to other ATGs. So, of course, the competition is accordingly good (or fast).
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    Sure he did Marciano’s defence was solid, scantly hit clean, Cus’Dmato thought so and Bill Miller thought it was worth Toney studying him.
     
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  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t think he was all that slow. Nothing that stands out. As mentioned though, his output was mind-boggling so even if he missed a few he’d still catch you with a number of others. The speed of them becomes less important when there are THAT many coming at you.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Marciano was, but is no longer, and has not been for a long time. Marciano's legacy still is, though.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ancient Louis couldn't miss him with a jab," I just had to take them." Marciano was cut in every major fight he had,he was hard to tag with a big shot but not to hit in general.
    Louis, Lastarza, and Moore commented on it. Now you can call me a hater for saying what his opponents remarked upon.
     
  12. Maxanthony86

    Maxanthony86 New Member Full Member

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    My post was prompted by wondering if Marciano would be able to catch the likes of Ali and Patterson and other fast moving fighters. Appreciate the responses. Re Marciano's defense, my thoughts are he didn't seem to worry too much about defending against the jab though he did have an effective parry. He was hard to hit clean with power punches though relied on chin and toughness more than avoiding punches.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Mathews jabbed him at will in the 1st rd of their fight.Second round Rocky left hooked him out of it!
     
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    Marciano was so green against Louis 4 years in with barely any amateur experience, Louis diminished or not he was formerly the GOAT.
     
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  15. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Marciano threw with both hands from multiple angles and from a crouch, and he didn't care where he hit you -- arms, throat, top of head -- because he knew it would hurt regardless. However, I'm confident that Ali's speed, toughness, endurance and ABILITY TO INFLICT CUTS would overwhelm Rocky by the late rounds.I can easily see the ring doctor stopping this fight.
     
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