Could Sonny Liston have made it undefeated vs Louis title defenses?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't see where he said that,that's more than once you have put your own interpretation on what a poster has actually stated.
     
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  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course you don't
     
  3. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    If you think that Muhammad Ali surviving the body-punching of Joe Frazier means he would always
    struggle against body-punchers perhaps you need to re-examine your own powers of reasoning.Cheerio,
     
  4. themaster458

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    I think him losing to Frazier shows that but sure just ignore that aspect for your own convivence
     
  5. Spreadeagle

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    Cheers mate, this guy has his own weird interpretation of what he sees in a boxing-ring.
     
  6. Spreadeagle

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    And by all means you can conveniently forget this was a past prime Ali.
     
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  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right I forgot everytime Ali fights a good opponent that makes him struggle it was past prime Ali so it doesn't count...... You people are so predictable I swear I already know what you're going to say before you say it
     
  8. Spreadeagle

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    Aha,so Ali dominating the fight for the first 3 rounds when he had his old foot speed,then having to fight
    in a more flat-footed style due to his declining speed (yes it's that word again ) and conceding rounds to
    Frazier was just a coincidence ? That this didn't fully illusstrate that the peak 1960's Ali would have defeated
    Frazier,at least according to you ? Really ?
     
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  9. Spreadeagle

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    Unfortunately I have the same problem with you.
     
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  10. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Copying my responses isn't the own you think it is especially when its wrong
     
  11. themaster458

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    Fight would have gone the same no matter what Ali showed up. Ali had nothing that could stop Frazier and Frazier had all the tools to beat Ali simple as that. Making up fanfiction to justify why your idol lost doesn't change that
     
  12. Spreadeagle

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    You should take it as a compliment.
     
  13. mcvey

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    No ,you think you know what we are going to say,and type out your response before we have posted ours;lol
     
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  14. mcvey

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    So their next two fights , and there results were because ,Frazier was irrevocably damaged. Whereas Ali having18 rounds of boxing in 4 years prior to FOTC is unimportant? Interesting
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Notice how when you present them with logical questions that non plus them they revert to the old hackneyed,"your idol,"BS?
     
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