Dominant champions who had bad jabs...?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Jun 10, 2025.


  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,366
    26,784
    Feb 15, 2006
    Panama Al Brown perhaps.

    Admittedly we don't have much to work with.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,833
    25,441
    Jun 26, 2009
    I think Roy Jr and Roberto Duran are two peas in this pod.

    Both could jab well when it suited them, but they didn’t use it consistently and weren’t reliant on it.
     
    Bronze Tiger, Journeyman92 and META5 like this.
  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    10,299
    17,629
    Jan 6, 2017
    But he used a pretty decent jab against Ruiz and Toney. Roy can control the pace of a round with his jab. It wasn't "terrible". He just preferred using lead hooks.
     
  4. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

    1,125
    1,736
    Apr 24, 2010
    Max saved his jab for the ladies.
     
    Journeyman92, Pugguy and Fireman Fred like this.
  5. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

    1,369
    2,046
    Jun 28, 2005
    Fair enough

    Perhaps it was terrible that he didn't use it enough - so we both 'win'?
     
    Glass City Cobra likes this.
  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

    15,935
    26,139
    Aug 22, 2021
    :lol: Ah, well in that sense, for one example, he apparently jabbed Myrna Loy silly then. Some
    days he even gave her the old 1 - 2. :D
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2025
    newurban99 likes this.
  7. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

    1,125
    1,736
    Apr 24, 2010
    Myrna Loy was the perfect woman. Beautiful, stylish, sexy in a maternal way, quick with a witty comeback, a loyal pal and co-conspirator who will cheerfully go along with drunkenness and mischief up to a point.
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2025
    Pugguy likes this.
  8. Macedoine62

    Macedoine62 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,678
    1,135
    Dec 23, 2023
    Marcos Maidana, Ricardo Mayorga, Tetsuya Fuji, Orlando Salido, Ryoichi Taguchi, Giovani Segura,Tetsuya Kawashima, Vic Darchinyan...
     
  9. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,872
    4,962
    Dec 31, 2018
  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,202
    6,867
    Nov 22, 2014
    I can't think of any dominant champ that had a bad jab.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    26,932
    44,346
    Mar 3, 2019
    It's gonna be hard to find a dominant champ with a distinctly bad jab - if a punch becomes a part of your style, by the time you reach championship level, you'll have mastered it. I mean, even lower level guys who've never been champ have shown this (Rudduck's smash, Whyte's left hook, Shavers' Overhand, etc).

    What is probably easier to find, is a guy neglected the jab and was still a dominant champion. At heavyweight alone there's a few - the Jab wasn't really apart of Frazier's game, or Dempsey's, Marciano's or Tyson's. I think the short/stocky stature and aggressive styles of those guys is no coincidence, it's the only real way to aschew the jab and still be dominant.
     
  12. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,755
    579
    Feb 11, 2024
    Tyson jab is very underrated, he outjabbed Tony Tucker.

    But I agree with the rest, that Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier, etc didn't have good jabs.
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2025 at 12:00 PM
    OddR likes this.
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    26,932
    44,346
    Mar 3, 2019
    It underrated imo, but its clearly his worst punch imo.
     
    OddR likes this.
  14. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,755
    579
    Feb 11, 2024
    Tyson's best weapons were left hook and right uppercut, but he had a good jab for one swarmer.
     
  15. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

    2,332
    3,858
    Apr 20, 2024
    Rigondeaux springs to mind. Never used his jab with much authority and instead chose to simply paw it out constantly as bait.

    Yamanaka is another, he liked to paw his jab as a range-finder to set up his booming straight left and find his range. He didn't use his jab much as a weapon in and of itself but instead used it in service of that brutal left hand of his. Adonis Stevenson was quite similar, largely focused on landing big left hands with the rest of his offensive arsenal built around that, including the jab.

    Canelo has a beautiful jab but frequently underutilises it.