How Bad Is The Ngannou fight for Furys legacy

Not really.

Mayweather was retired at the point was 40 years old and never looked in trouble an stopped McGregor comfortably.

Fury was an active Heavyweight champion and was arguably floored twice and came very close to losing a decision.

Fury's performance is far worse.

 

Fury lost to McDermott the decision was considered so bad they changed the rules on how British title fights were scored.

Dropped by Pajkic, Cunningham.

Fury punched himself in the face during a fight.

Fury came within a whisker of losing to the very limited Wallin.

Went life and death with Wilder twice being dropped 4 times.

Fury has had alot of bad moments in his career to go along with the Ngannou debacle.

 

You could also say Patterson has the excuse that Rademacher was an Olympic gold medalist boxer despite being a novice pro. His amateur pedigree is the only reason it happened, Rademacher publicized wanting to be the first perosn to win the title in his debut. Ngannou was a 37 year old mma fighter

 

Eh. Floyd was a generational talent and p4p #1 for a long time. If not for Manny he would have been seen as head and shoulders above the whole pack for close to a decade - the pair of them were so far ahead of anybody in their wake.

Tyson Fury was always overrated IMO. He spent the rest of his career living off a bullying of a gun-shy and mentally rattled version of Wlad still reeling from the death of Emanuel Steward a couple of years earlier and in with an undefeated super heavy for the first time since then. His redemptive gutsy effort against Joshua doesn't change the fact that Wlad barely tried against Fury until the very late going, when it was too late.

Don't get me started on Wilder.

Mayweather should have shut out McGregor. Losing even a round to a debuting mixed martial artist, even half-retired at the age of 40, is still a major letdown.

 

Excellently put. And straight to the heart of the problem. This was a fight literally no-one was asking for. It didn't need to happen. It really shouldn't have happenened. And yet Fury chose it. And he chose to come in out of shape for it. It's all on him. And he should own the subsequent criticism for it.
And I don't really blame AJ for stepping in against Ngannou after. Fury legitimized it as a fight - his initial decision had ramifications for the division. It's actions like which ultimately soured his once promising legacy.

 

I'm no Fury fan, but to be fair all of the greats have had embarrassing performances at one time or another. It doesn't affect my view of him very much.

 

Fury is feather fisted. AJ shattered Ngannou's Glass Jaw.

 

@Dynamicpuncher It's easy to minimize, troll, exaggerate and focus on little moments or bad performances. Name all your favourite fighters and I could do that with every single one of them.

Overall, Fury has been a fantastic heavyweight, had an excellent career, will get into the hall of fame and has only lost on points to the greatest fighter of this generation in close fights. There's been far more high points than low points, put it that way.

 

Considering what I think of his legacy,,it fits right in.

 

In your opinion not mine and my favourite fighters are Larry Holmes, Juan Manuel Marquez, Pernell Whitaker.

And none of them had the low points Fury had not even close and are far greater than Fury.

 

Tbf you could see it coming from a mile away. First time it showed was Wilder 3- losing a lot of speed and movement. Body Way less pronounced. He got away with it against Whyte and Chisora. Ngannou gave him a much needed humbling. The dropoff compared to the Usyk and Whyte fight was so massive; i dont think he had much of a camp at all.

It is a motivation related issue. he looked much better in the Usyk fights. We will never know what he was capable of if he had a dedicated and motivated career. So yes, the Ngannou fight did severely damage his legacy. But it came with a massive drop in motivation and performance of at least 2 years. As a whole i”d say that damaged his legacy more.

 

Marquez was floored about 13 times in his career, had a love affair with the canvas his whole career. Dropped by bums like Likar Ramos, Dropped by the limited Michael Katsidis who he went life and death with.. Lost 7 times. Lost to alphabet titlist bum Freddie Norwood. Lost to the mediocre, featherfist Timothy Bradley. Went life and death twice with the bang average, slow Juan Diaz. Got whooped by B/C Level standard fighter in Chris John. Lost every ****ing round to Floyd Mayweather in a complete mismatch. Laughably has been ridiculed for drinking urine. Most of his existence solely revolves around getting a single win out of four fights versus Pacquaio in a fight where he was probably on peds.

(That's how you would be talking if you hated Marquez as much as you do Fury ^)

 

Fury is a waste of a talent. The fight tarnished his image for sure, but people kinda knew it could happen because Fury is such a lazy **** sometimes. People saw how fat he was before camp. Before the fight, people were joking about a scenario from "The Great White Hype" movie where the champ got fat and lazy and nearly got knocked out by a nobody.

Fury screwed himself. He could have taken it serious and make Boxing proud, but he's a selfish ***** who only cares about himself and his lifestyle. If he took boxing more seriously in his career, he could have been an ATG top 5 heavyweight.

 

I always tell people that a mediocre person who works hard can accomplish more than a talented person who is lazy.

Marciano had mediocre athleticism and small stature, but he worked his ass off. His work ethic is well-known and he trained like crazy. He was tough and he fought bigger men and he beat them all. He reached his full potential.

Fury is on the other side of the spectrum. A naturally talented big man with natural height, length and speed, but he's lazy. His work ethic is the opposite of Marciano. Fury would rather drink and party than train and he will never reach his full potential. If Fury trained as hard as Marciano did, he may have been as great as Ali, if not greater.