How Bad Is The Ngannou fight for Furys legacy

For beating Mr Roboto and Mr Acromegaly. Roboto ran from Mr Obesity himself for 12 rounds after having suffered a Ko loss to that man in their previous bout. Mr Roboto also needed all the help that he could get from the referee to beat amateurish Joseph Parker and then Roboto ofcourse got himself koed by some nobody who he wouldn't rematch..... beating this dude sounds like the stuff that legends are made from.

Will Usyk be remembered for his split decision victory over Maiiris Breidis?

No, his crowning achievement was beating Mr Acromegaly. Maybe he should call Valuev also out from retirement, that dude only has two official losses on his record and besides there is greatness in a small Ukrainian torturing a huge Russian.

With all these nonsensical fighters, AJ and Fury and someone trying to pull greatness from beating them it sort of sounds like we are talking about the WWE and not about a real sport.

 

It won't affect his legacy at all. Thirty years from now it will be a "who cares" blip on the radar. His legacy will be based on his big wins and losses as well as his title reign.

 

Not really.

Mayweather was retired at the point was 40 years old and never looked in trouble an stopped McGregor comfortably.

Fury was an active Heavyweight champion and was arguably floored twice and came very close to losing a decision.

Fury's performance is far worse.

 

Fury lost to McDermott the decision was considered so bad they changed the rules on how British title fights were scored.

Dropped by Pajkic, Cunningham.

Fury punched himself in the face during a fight.

Fury came within a whisker of losing to the very limited Wallin.

Went life and death with Wilder twice being dropped 4 times.

Fury has had alot of bad moments in his career to go along with the Ngannou debacle.

 

You could also say Patterson has the excuse that Rademacher was an Olympic gold medalist boxer despite being a novice pro. His amateur pedigree is the only reason it happened, Rademacher publicized wanting to be the first perosn to win the title in his debut. Ngannou was a 37 year old mma fighter

 

MMA champion, though. Ngannou was at the top of a profession where part of the skillset involves fistfighting.

Both guys saw an easy money opportunity, which I think is the bottom line. I don't blame them for taking it.

 

Never occurred to me until now, but if you take the position that Ngannou was robbed against Fury, then the lineal championship passed from Ngannou to AJ to Dubois, and we'll finally find out who the undisputed champion is when Dubois faces Usyk.

 

Eh. Floyd was a generational talent and p4p #1 for a long time. If not for Manny he would have been seen as head and shoulders above the whole pack for close to a decade - the pair of them were so far ahead of anybody in their wake.

Tyson Fury was always overrated IMO. He spent the rest of his career living off a bullying of a gun-shy and mentally rattled version of Wlad still reeling from the death of Emanuel Steward a couple of years earlier and in with an undefeated super heavy for the first time since then. His redemptive gutsy effort against Joshua doesn't change the fact that Wlad barely tried against Fury until the very late going, when it was too late.

Don't get me started on Wilder.

Mayweather should have shut out McGregor. Losing even a round to a debuting mixed martial artist, even half-retired at the age of 40, is still a major letdown.

 

Excellently put. And straight to the heart of the problem. This was a fight literally no-one was asking for. It didn't need to happen. It really shouldn't have happenened. And yet Fury chose it. And he chose to come in out of shape for it. It's all on him. And he should own the subsequent criticism for it.
And I don't really blame AJ for stepping in against Ngannou after. Fury legitimized it as a fight - his initial decision had ramifications for the division. It's actions like which ultimately soured his once promising legacy.

 

I'm no Fury fan, but to be fair all of the greats have had embarrassing performances at one time or another. It doesn't affect my view of him very much.

 

Fury is feather fisted. AJ shattered Ngannou's Glass Jaw.

 

@Dynamicpuncher It's easy to minimize, troll, exaggerate and focus on little moments or bad performances. Name all your favourite fighters and I could do that with every single one of them.

Overall, Fury has been a fantastic heavyweight, had an excellent career, will get into the hall of fame and has only lost on points to the greatest fighter of this generation in close fights. There's been far more high points than low points, put it that way.

 

Considering what I think of his legacy,,it fits right in.

 

Lots of variables. Holding and defending four belts simultaneously is probably harder than the old system.