In your opinion not mine and my favourite fighters are Larry Holmes, Juan Manuel Marquez, Pernell Whitaker. And none of them had the low points Fury had not even close and are far greater than Fury.
Tbf you could see it coming from a mile away. First time it showed was Wilder 3- losing a lot of speed and movement. Body Way less pronounced. He got away with it against Whyte and Chisora. Ngannou gave him a much needed humbling. The dropoff compared to the Usyk and Whyte fight was so massive; i dont think he had much of a camp at all. It is a motivation related issue. he looked much better in the Usyk fights. We will never know what he was capable of if he had a dedicated and motivated career. So yes, the Ngannou fight did severely damage his legacy. But it came with a massive drop in motivation and performance of at least 2 years. As a whole i”d say that damaged his legacy more.
Marquez was floored about 13 times in his career, had a love affair with the canvas his whole career. Dropped by bums like Likar Ramos, Dropped by the limited Michael Katsidis who he went life and death with.. Lost 7 times. Lost to alphabet titlist bum Freddie Norwood. Lost to the mediocre, featherfist Timothy Bradley. Went life and death twice with the bang average, slow Juan Diaz. Got whooped by B/C Level standard fighter in Chris John. Lost every ****ing round to Floyd Mayweather in a complete mismatch. Laughably has been ridiculed for drinking urine. Most of his existence solely revolves around getting a single win out of four fights versus Pacquaio in a fight where he was probably on peds. (That's how you would be talking if you hated Marquez as much as you do Fury ^)
Fury is a waste of a talent. The fight tarnished his image for sure, but people kinda knew it could happen because Fury is such a lazy **** sometimes. People saw how fat he was before camp. Before the fight, people were joking about a scenario from "The Great White Hype" movie where the champ got fat and lazy and nearly got knocked out by a nobody. Fury screwed himself. He could have taken it serious and make Boxing proud, but he's a selfish ***** who only cares about himself and his lifestyle. If he took boxing more seriously in his career, he could have been an ATG top 5 heavyweight.
I always tell people that a mediocre person who works hard can accomplish more than a talented person who is lazy. Marciano had mediocre athleticism and small stature, but he worked his ass off. His work ethic is well-known and he trained like crazy. He was tough and he fought bigger men and he beat them all. He reached his full potential. Fury is on the other side of the spectrum. A naturally talented big man with natural height, length and speed, but he's lazy. His work ethic is the opposite of Marciano. Fury would rather drink and party than train and he will never reach his full potential. If Fury trained as hard as Marciano did, he may have been as great as Ali, if not greater.
Ramos = Marquez stopped him in 1 round ? what are you talking about ? Katsidis = Top 3 rated Lightweight when Marquez fought him. Norwood = Made 8 world title defences was a top 2 rated Featherweight and it was a highly controversial decision and Marquez's first world title fight. Bradley = Bradley is a hall of fame fighter and it was at the end of Marquez's career he was 40 years old. John = So a fighter who was a champion for almost a decade who had 16 title defences is a B/C level type fighter ? Ok. Diaz = So beating a top 3 rated Lightweight at 37 years old in what was named the fight of the year is a low point ? Diaz average ? he won 3 out of the 4 belts at Lightweight and won 8 world title fights. Mayweather = So losing to one of the greatest fighters of all time above his best weight at catchweight is a low point ? All these fighters were top 5 ranked fighters and everyone on this list was a world champion at one point outside of Katsidis. No i'm sorry that's not comparable with Fury's thin resume and struggling against an MMA fighter and unranked mediocre opposition. And if Fury would've been as active as Marquez and fought as many top ranked fighters as him he'd have alot more losses aswell. Also LOL for saying Marquez "may" of been on PEDs vs Pacquiao when Fury was the one actually caught with PEDs what a joke.
I think if you fight 4/5 x per year, then no one cares if you have a novelty fight. When it’s 1-2 times per year and there is Usyk waiting, it is a p*ss take. The woeful performance was the icing on the cake. Not a good look
But none of those guys are as bad as a past it mma fighter in his debut and the context !!! Fury should never have taken that circus show and he doesn't have enough world class wins to compare to any great like Marquez, he went life and death with Wallin. Your extremist fanatic post history and false equivalences is a assetation to textbook damage control geared towards keeping the agenda on life support
This guy is ridiculous. All the fighters he mentioned in his post to discredit Marquez were all top 5 ranked fighters when Marquez fought them and all of them were world champions outside of Katsidis. Imagine thinking beating Diaz in the fight of the year at 37 years old is a low point. And imagine thinking losing controversial decision to John in the champions backyard who was a champion for almost a decade is a low point. He called Diaz average lol and John B/C class. God knows what he ranks the likes of Wallin, McDermott, Ngannou, then with that logic. Also bringing up 7 losses when Marquez had double the amount of fights as Fury and has probably fought quadruple the amount of the top 10 ranked fighters Fury has and at 4 different weightclasses i might add. And finally Marquez fought in 18 world title fights compared to 8 for Fury.
What's ironic is he claimed Marquez was probably on PEDs against Pacquiao yet Fury is the only here who actually tested positive for a banned substance, and it happened roughly around the time of the Klitschko fight
Its even less important and can be held hostage like George Foreman or Tyson Fury I still dont understand why Tyson Fury was lineal after having a 2 year break Whats the time frame for a retirement to make a lineal champion vacate? What if Lennox Lewis comes out of retirement now? Is he lineal? Its so stupid