Moses Itauma vs Joe Louis

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Has boxing evolved enough for a novice like Itauma to beat an all time great from a very ancient bygone era or would Joe Louis find Itaumas glass chin early
     
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    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Moses is 20 and has had 12 pro fights. Way to early to make any educated judgments on him vs all-time legends.
     
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    Louis via murder, it has not evolved even a little anyone who says Louis is “primitive” is a MORON and shouldn’t be taken seriously he’s what boxers today of all weights should aspire to Inoue is actually almost as skilled and fundamental, just a few refinements and he’d be a little Joe Louis. Louis is a giant and would beat the **** out of every heavyweight in history with few survivors and that includes Ali.
     
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    Law what the hell is that new profile picture :lol:
     
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    Itauma gives him problems early

    He's big, fast, sharp and also a southpaw (a kind of boxers Joe Louis DESPISED)

    However that would lead him nowhere, as The Brown Bomber is the superior boxer in every way imaginable
    first 4 rounds probably go to Moses, as Louis adapts and sets up a big right hand KO.
     
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    Too early for Itauma, Itauma has never fought someone on the level of Louis' raw power, for now I have to choose Louis but that may change in the future...
     
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    I like what I have seen of Moses Itauma so far. We may learn more about him in his next fight. As for now, he is not ready to go in against a prime Joe Louis, or even an older, but still active, Joe Louis, in my opinion.
     
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    Stupid post...
     
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    Who the fk is Moses Itauma

    Earn your stripes first
     
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    what?! are you trolling?
     
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    12 pro fights against uhhhhhh and only 24 amateur fights all against opponents with no more than 8 or 9 fight records
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Come on. You know the answer to this question. Every single person does. When you watch films of Louis does boxing look like it evolved. If anything today's Heavys look like they were never taught half of what Louis knew
     
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    I think you have to look beyond the absolutely dominant champion from the time to see how much the sport has evolved, if any. What did the top 50 Heavyweights of the day look like compared to today, for example? How about the top 10 from around Louis' peak, vs. the top 10 from today (#1 vs #1, #2 vs. #2 etc..). So, from The Ring's annual 1938 top 10, vs. today's...

    Champion: Oleksandr Usyk (6'3" 221 lbs.) vs. Joe Louis (6'1" 198 lbs.)

    1. Tyson Fury (6'9" 281) vs. Lou Nova (6'2" 198)
    2. Joseph Parker (6'3" 267) vs. Max Baer (6'2" 210)
    3. Agit Kabayel (6'3" 241) vs. Bob Pastor (5'11" 190)
    4. Daniel Dubois (6'5" 248) vs. Tony Galento (5'9" 227)
    5. Anthony Joshua (6'6" 252) vs. Maxie Rosenbloom (5'10" 180)
    6. Filip Hrgovic (6'6" 247) vs. Len Harvey (6' 181)
    7. Fabio Wardley (6'5" 241) vs. Clarence (Red) Burman (5'11" 186)
    8. Zhilei Zhang (6'5" 287) vs. Roscoe Toles (6'2" 196)
    9. Martin Bakole (6'5" 299) vs. Gus Dorazio (5'11" 184)
    10. Moses Itauma (6'4" 254) vs. Tommy Farr (6'1" 208)

    How many Ws do you see the 1938 crowd getting here? There would need to be a deeper dive than this of course to really see how much evolution has taken place, but this is a start. When talking about the evolution of the sport, I'm talking strictly Heavyweights, where the bigger, stronger, faster part of it maybe comes into play.
     
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