Joe Louis would beat Muhammad Ali… possibly quite badly

Louis wins because he's a way better boxer and would exploit Ali's flaws just like Norton did.

 

I don’t know but I do know this; if it was Louis in there instead of Frazier when Ali got stunned in the 11th round, Ali ain’t making it to the end of that round.

 

Ali was the cream of what was probably a better group of large athletes, for whatever it's worth. Though both were extreme outliers even by elite heavyweight standards for their eras.

This being boxing and all, though, there may be stylistic and technical reasons why that matters less.

 

Louis did not chase down Walcott in their first fight, he methodically stalked him as he did all his opponents until his first retirement .In their 2nd fight Walcott, thinking he was well in front, decided to do the cake walk,play safe ,and not engage,but he wasn't running, he gave Louis an opening, result he got caught.
Pastor went the distance in their 1st fight,stung by the ridicule he received for not trying to win, he elected to punch with Louis in the 2nd one with predictable results.
Conn was ahead against Louis,but his temperament got the better of his judgement and he began to trade with Louis ,168lbs and not a puncher,bad move.
Against Bonavena Ali had less than 3 rds of fighting in the previous 3 and a half years, hardly a valid or objective comparison to make.
Ali showed poor agility against Frazier because he had been out so long and trusted neither his stamina nor his legs.
Again ,hardly an unbiased example to draw comparisons from.
Norton a come forward fighter with a good jab ,and body attack and that,"foot in a bucket ,"trailing back leg style would always trouble Ali,and anyone not a big puncher.Big punchers who could back Norton up were his kryptonite,not boxers who fought on the back foot.
The bell interrupted any opportunity for Cooper to continue this attack and Ali with marvellous recuperative powers ,got down to serious business in the following round.
Again this was a pre prime Ali imo,Cooper remarked that in o their 2nd fight Ali had learned some pro tricks and wasn't the target for a punch on the break,[ a Cooper specialty],he had been in their first one.
Louis has the power advantage.
I don't agree his hand speed is equal to Ali's ,and his foot speed certainly isn't.
Ali has the edge in height,reach,and chin.
Convincing cases can be made for either man.
My pick is Ali, by dec or late tko.

 

Point those bits out please.

 

• After twelve rounds, Conn was ahead on two of the three scorecards and even on the third. He needed to win just one of the three remaining rounds to get the decision. However, after staggering Louis in the twelfth, Conn believed he could stop him and went for a knockout in the thirteenth. Louis, who was told by his trainer, Jack Blackburn, that he had to stop Conn to win, also went for a knockout. Louis hurt Conn with a right about a minute into the round. Louis, one of the greatest finishers of all-time, didn't let Conn off the hook. A volley of lefts and rights put Conn down for the count at 2:58 of the thirteenth round.

 

I have to be honest: both of these guys did things that the other would struggle with. Ali had mobile footwork and was fast. Louis never had very fast footwork. He'd have a job cut out for him if Ali boxed from range. On the other hand Louis had fast and powerful hands himself. Ali has to hit Louis to win, and exchanging with Joe would be fraught with danger for him. There's a world of difference in outboxing slow clubbers and fast snappy punchers.

 

"Before a howling, near-capacity crowd of 18,000, Joe Louis, minus his fistic bombs, outpointed Bob Pastor tonight in a 10-round pursuit that presented one of the strangest heavyweight spectacles witnessed in the Garden's battle pit in many a moon. Pastor put on a reverse brand of footwork with such success that he weathered the limit of 10 full rounds without once being seriously damaged, much less knocked off his feet. Louis, slow, wild and completely baffled by his rival's tactics, showed the effects of Pastor's punches around the region of the ribs and kidneys, besides a sore nose that bled throughout the last five rounds. The Bomber's lefts jarred Pastor at intervals, including the 4th, 5th and 8th rounds, but he missed more blows than he connected. Pastor, in retreat nine-tenths of the entire fight, covered more ground than a cross-country runner, but he did it purposely and accomplished his objective, namely, to go the route and keep his chin out of harm's way." -Associated Press

 

Second fight.
The Afro American - Google News Archive Search

 

Joe Louis vs Jersey Joe Walcott 2 (25.6.1948) - HD Colorized - YouTube
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Walcott doing the "walk away cakewalk ,"in the 11th and last round of the 2nd Louis fight.
"In the second round I could see he was still amateurish.
He was a novice at infighting,he really had no idea at all.
When I caught him off the ropes and he came into a clinch,he just held me and waited until the referee said break.I tried to be as rough as I could inside.I really roughed him up.I belted him to the body,tried to uppercut him on the inside,pushed him,anything except using the elbows."
Henry Cooper His autobiography , his first fight with Ali.
Bonavena found Ali?Ali did not run form Oscar he circled him, pot shotting jabs and left hooks,BTW who won that fight and how?

You dismiss ringside reports as spam ?
The only spam on your thread is what you posted ,"eg Louis was as fast as Ali."

I'm asking again, point out the," Wive's tales"in my content?

While you are at it , post some evidence to back up your claims, personal opinion doesn't do it!

You won't be addressing my proof because you have no answer to it!