Prime Sonny Liston vs Prime wladimir klitschko

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You could try reading the post instead of clinging to someone else’s opinion like it’s gospel.

    Mcvey's comment was clearly in response to the claim that "Liston couldn't beat even bang average smaller HWs like Leotis Martin"
     
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  2. Spreadeagle

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    Hmmm....It's not as simple as that.Liston absorbed the punches of guys like Cleveland Williams
    and Nino Valdes.Both men were considerably heavier punchers than Ali.
    Also there is precious little evidence to suggest Wlad could take Liston's punches.
    In fact all the evidence confirms that Sonny had a far more reliable chin than Wlad.
     
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  3. Spreadeagle

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    So Mcvey rates Liston highly ? So does practically every renowned boxing historian/commentator !
    Just take your time and think about that.
     
  4. Lonsdale81

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    Just take your time & think about that fact that i don't care about upsetting you or your girlfriend. For all his mythicsl status his resume isn't very good & he generally outsized his opposition by some margin. Cope harder.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    * Against a field of cruiser sized heavies.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

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    Wlad was well suited to beat cruiserweights but chin wise, I don't see Wladimir just ignoring shots from hard hitting smaller guys, he would get put down if they landed flush several times
     
  7. mcvey

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    Ali is considered to have an ATG excellent chin,ditto Chuvalo and Cobb how many 245/250lbs heavyweights did they face?

    Do you think Sanders and Purrity hit harder than Liston?
     
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  8. BCS8

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    good points
     
  9. BCS8

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    Wlad did not ignore punches. There's a reason he lasted so long: he's a defensive master.
     
  10. BCS8

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    Yes
     
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  11. Spreadeagle

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    Nooooo.........you're now trying to deny that Cleveland Williams was in the same league
    for punching power as Corrie Sanders. It is unlikely,very unlikely,that Liston would have been
    dismantled by Sanders in the same shattering way that Wlad was.
     
  12. BCS8

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    I think Sanders would have beaten Williams like a drum.
     
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  13. Spreadeagle

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    My girlfriend ? What a curious little boy you are.Oh well never mind.
    At the risk of upsetting you even further Wlad tended to outsize his opponents.
    Oh,and do try to try to keep it civil sonny.
     
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  14. Spreadeagle

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    That's debatable to say the least.
     
  15. BCS8

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    You are entitled to your (incorrect) opinion :)
     
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