Joe Louis would beat Muhammad Ali… possibly quite badly

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Journeyman92, Jun 18, 2025 at 8:14 PM.


What’s your opinion?

  1. Louis

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    27.9%

  2. Ali

    43 vote(s)
    70.5%

  3. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
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  1. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Of course not.
    It is more like a "Journeyman is on ketamine again" thread.
     
    Kid Bacon, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:23 AM
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  2. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    This.
    Louis was a master combo puncher, able to combine speed and variety of punches non-stop, not giving a moment of respite to his adversary.

    I wonder if Ali ever fought somebody who had some resemblance to Louis in that sense.
     
    Kid Bacon, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:29 AM
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    lol
     
    mcvey, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:46 AM
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  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And he was right as the FOTC showed
     
    themaster458, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:47 AM
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    How about the second and third fights?

    How about Zaire?

    Which of them was in hospital for a month after FOTC?lol
     
    mcvey, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:49 AM
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  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When did Ali show he can fight off the ropes in any of those fights when he got battered by Frazier every time. Also funny how you don't bring up the Norton fights wonder why.....
     
    themaster458, Jun 19, 2025 at 12:14 PM
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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I was going to point out that boxing matches aren't scored by the length of post-fight hospital stays. And they're not.

    ...But it's interesting to wonder what they'd be like if they were.
     
    cross_trainer, Jun 19, 2025 at 12:24 PM
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He gave the blueprint for doing so in Zaire.

    Ali wasn't battered on the ropes in the 2nd and 3rd Frazier fights,both of which he won.
     
    mcvey, Jun 19, 2025 at 3:02 PM
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  9. OddR

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    Ali 70% of the votes.
     
    OddR, Jun 19, 2025 at 3:06 PM
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    I’ve never done Ketamine and posted here… allegedly
     
    Journeyman92, Jun 19, 2025 at 3:28 PM
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  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    You think Zaire is a good demonstration of how to fight on the ropes with Joe Louis? - you think watching him get battered by Frazier is a good demonstration in the FOTC?
     
    Journeyman92, Jun 19, 2025 at 3:29 PM
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  12. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis was the "perfect" puncher...and...he was a great finisher...Ali wouldn't made it out of that 11th round at the FOTC in 1971.
     
    RockyJim, Jun 19, 2025 at 3:37 PM
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  13. he grant

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    Unlike your arguments ? LOL
     
    he grant, Jun 19, 2025 at 4:54 PM
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    Oh have I made a new friend? :naughty2:
     
    Journeyman92, Jun 19, 2025 at 5:46 PM
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, prime for prime Ali is too athletic. Louis never had a realistic chance in my honest opinion. The version of Ali i saw against Liston and Folley is a h2h nightmare imo
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Jun 19, 2025 at 5:52 PM
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