How would Dmitry Bivol hold up against Archie Moore?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Do you think Bivol is much stronger and fitter than Harold Johnson ?
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    HOW MANY TIMES HAS BIVOL GONE 15 RDS?
     
  2. Terror

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    Moore busts Bivol up, Bivol is too active to not get caught repeatedly per round by Archie. At the end of rd12 in the first Beterbiev fight, Bivol looked like he wanted out and didn't want any more. Imagine 15 with the Mongoose.
     
  3. themaster458

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    He's definitely much faster and throws more punches
     
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    That does not answer the question I asked. Want to compare resumes?
     
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    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol isn't getting stopped. Why do I see people saying that? His defense and recovery are too good.
     
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  6. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    Bivol was getting overwhelmed and hurt by Artur Beterbiev

    Now, no disrespect to Beterbiev who's my favorite boxer of this era behind Inoue

    but what makes you think Bivol will survive the assault of a fitter, stronger, more precise, more accurate, more intelligent and harder puncher in Archie Moore, when he starts to get overwhelmed and hurt?
     
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    He'd probably last 12, i guess. 15 is iffy.
     
  8. themaster458

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    Want to compare techniques?
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Bivol is terrific but was fading early against Beterbiev till Beterbiev gassed … Archie was a real Beterbiev, a real destroyer as a puncher , tons more games and experience … over 15 Archie was way too much.
     
  10. Barrf

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    did you miss what happened after Bivol’s worst round? he came back like a bat out of hell.

    I didn’t say Bivol would win this matchup. Maybe he wouldn’t. I just think it’s highly unlikely he’d be stopped. Or that any LHW ever would stop him. He’s got an ATG chin, ATG recovery, ATG defense.
     
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    He was never hurt

    Other way around if he can survive Beterbiev why wouldn't he able to survive a smaller, weaker and less harder puncher like Moore. In no way can you argue Moore is somehow stronger and more fit then Beterbiev who's a legit beast who hits damn hard
     
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  12. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    I'm not even going to keep arguing, Beterbiev being bigger than Archie Moore, absolute toomfolery
     
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    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Almost like fighters are bigger and stronger today who would have thought......
     
  14. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    Ah yes, Artur Beterbiev, who fought at a maximum peak weight of 185lbs at the olympics and probably around the same weight at the pros

    is bigger than Moore, who routinely fought from 175 to 200+ lbs, and became the Heavyweight World Champion as recognized by Nevada

    He's also stronger than Moore, who beat and forced the #1 ranked heavyweight Nino Valdes to go to the ropes and get battered TWICE whilst facing a 13lb and 29lb disadvantage

    and is a harder puncher than Moore, who holds the second spot of most knockouts achieved by a boxer in history, by knocking out better opposition than what Beterbiev faced in his career

    Ah yes, truly one of the opinions of all time
     
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  15. themaster458

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    You do realise his weight at his best at heavyweight was like 190-pound right? Beterbiev is all muscle and can bench press 310 IB like I'm sorry I don't think Moore can compare to that
     
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