How Dominant would Mike Tyson Have Been..?

Mccall can't box ? Are you trolling ? Mccall beat Bruce Seldon, Lennox Lewis, Henry Akinwande, Larry Holmes, Maskaev. Wtf is wrong with your brain ? You can literally argue Mccall has better wins than joshua, we can make a poll as a matter of fact

Ajs best wins are mostly old men unlike Tyson as i just proved. You can't refute it, that's why you didn't even attempt it. Johsuas only 2 stoppage losses are to prime pressure fighters, which is why joshua isn't beating tyson realistically. Ruiz isn't even a big puncher. Dubois killed him, the same aj who beat Ngannou after Ngannou gave Fury a hard fight. No matter how much you want to deny it, it happened. Joshua and his team claimed he was better than ever before going into the Dubois fight and he certainly looked that way off the eye test. There was no noticeable decline against Wallin and Ngannou

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Ben Davison claimed aj was punching harder than ever before against Wallin and had been improving, thats why he dispatched Wallin so easily, the same Wallin you keep proping up as a relevant contender, unless you admit Wallin ISN'T a contender. It's one or the other

Name 2 prime power punchers that aj beat. I can't even name 1

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Wilder isn't the one getting his timing off first when Tyson is faster, has better defense with his forte slipping jabs and straight punches, has faster feet, better footwork, far superior offense, and has beaten better fighters

 

Tyson and Povetkin have similar styles, yet Tyson achieved far more than Povetkin and has more explosive KOs. The burden of proof is on you to show prime Povetkin is on the level of Tyson. Otherwise Joshua struggling with a declined version of Povetkin is a clear testament to how terrible he'd perform against a prime Tyson.

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McCall won his fights mostly on power and durability. He's never been some technical wizard.

AJ proved that he could habdle a pressure fighter in the Ruiz rematch where he whitewashed him.

Joshua has been looking like hot garbage for a while now and I even pointed it out in my first post. Do I get to pick the version of Tyson that got knocked out by Danny Williams?

Yeah, I noticed that you omitted Whyte from your list. Very crafty. And since when is Povetkin not a power puncher?

nope

Wilder has the nuclear straight right and it is longer than anything Tyson has.

 

proof right there

 

That Tyson is better yes

 

At some things. Certainly not everything.

 

To say Mccall can't box is completely asinine. But stand on that quote

Ruiz was 20 pounds fatter than the first fight. He was at career heaviest. Ruiz is literally the second heaviest defending heavyweight of all time, this is not a joke. He had cement feet, this win doesn't say anything about his chances against Mike

Did you not read prime power punchers ?

And what does Wilder do when Tyson slips his jab and gets into punching range ? Exactly

Who is the best opponent Wilder knocked out with that right hand btw ?

You weasel. You favored aj and in earlier posts said he looked good against Ngannou and Wallin, it's right here for everyone to see. The dishonesty will not work, stand on your predictions when you get them wrong

Another false equivalence

 

Your post is absurd and idiotic.

Ruiz added 20lb of prime Mexican beef to his arsenal. Tyson was never that beefy.

Since when is Ngannou not a power puncher?

There's a decent chance Tyson has to scrape himself off the floor before that happens.

Wilder has plenty of power don't delude yourself.

So I was wrong, AJ is shot, you dingdong. Not even the great BCS8 is right all the time.

 

It depends on how soon he runs into Jake Paul.

We know Jake is Mike’s kryptonite.

 

I'm sure the correct term is Clinical Obesity

Ngannou was a 37 year old mma fighter, but it feels delighted when you have to reach this far. Did he even land on aj btw ? If he didn't get hit clean then this doesn't help the chin argument

He has never landed that right hand early against anyone decent and Ortiz just followed him around like an old man. Tyson by violent KO. Odds are Tyson slips that right hand, never gets dropped, lands a hook on deontays jaw like Eric Molina did and the fight is over. But keep proping Wilder up. These arguments become more and more void as time goes on because most see Wilder as a fringe contender with journeyman level skills and a dangerous punch.

"Deontay might hit hard but he fought nobody until he stepped up against Fury, Parker and Zhang and got destroyed" That's how many new fans view the situation when they join the sport and I quite like it. Its close to the truth

Mr McCall can't box lol

So did ruddock, he was extremely explosive, he typically weighed more than Wilder too, so that would be in line with the typical goofy physics arguments i see you make. Also, what top guy did Wilder KO with that right hand again ?

No he isn't, aj has never beaten a prime puncher in his career and that's what Dubois was. Him and his team were vocally confident in his abilities after he destroyed Wallin, unless you're willing to admit Wallin is not a contender. According to you Ngannou is noteworthy as well as you just listed him, and aj obliterated him. If a fighter were actually shot they would look it. Ajs athleticism and reflexes look the same as always. He might be slightly past it. Watch him against Takam and Pulev. Dubois KO'd joshua as a 19 year old, so it's no suprise a prime Dubois wiped the floor with aj

 

You sound like you just hate Mexicans

Wow so you are making the argument that AJ is amazing.

So, you admit that he landed on Ortiz

I said that Fury was too good a boxer for Wilder before their first fight. You are welcome.

^ that is another low iq post

Ruddock's best punch is different from Wilder's. And I think you already answered your own question.

AJ beat up punchers and you can't handle that fact

 

Never said anything insinuating that, but what is true is Andy Ruiz is the fattest heavyweight champion in history FACT.

By beating old mma fighters ? The bar is that low for the aj apologists huh ? Thanks for clarifying everything i already knew

You claim aj is shot at 34 years old, how old was Luis Ortiz again ??????

You're right, Ruddcoks best punch is different from Wilder's. Ruddock is actually stylistically a more difficult fight for Tyson because Ruddocks best punch was the uppercut which he timed a crouching Tyson with and he could throw combinations along with an underrated jab. Wilder gets his right hand taken away because it's straight down the pipe and easier to slip, then Wilder has no weapons up close and gets slaughtered. Easy nights work

But none were in their prime. Prime Tyson by stoppage. It doesn’t even have to go there. Tyson is just a superior fighter with a better resume, we can poll that too

 

So, you are calling Mexicans fat.

Ngannou is a puncher.

Ortiz has been prime since 1804. About the same as the amazing Holmes win you were crowing about.

Wilder's straight punch comes harder and faster than anything Ruddock threw. You don't want to face the fact that there's a decent chance that Tyson might be woken up by the doctor.

Tyson never fought the guys that AJ did. Tyson had a mattress list of opponents until he ran into dudes that could actually fight back. Imagine getting wiped out by Buster Douglas lol

 

So is Dubois and aj fought both in the same year. But you want to know the difference between Ngannou and Dubois ? one is a prime experienced boxer and the other is an aging mma fighter and we saw the results. joshua got trashed by the former. Imagine what Tyson does

Holmes had enough in the tank to beat Mercer at 42. Who did Ortiz beat again ? Also didn't Klitschko retire after aj ?

So fast and powerful that dinosaur Ortiz saw the 10th despite getting clipped numerous times . Wilder doesn't see the 2nd round

Ajs murderers row consists of old Povetkin, and elderly Pulev, a Joe Joyce victim, an old mma fighter, and a shot Klitschko. At least Tyson dispatched of Holmes in dominant fashion, aj barely scraped by Wladimir who couldn't even navigate the ring anymore

Rather it be Buster Douglas in 10 than Andy Ruiz in 7. Joshua in his prime got his ass beat by one of the fattest heavyweights ever. Thats his legacy

 

It all depends on how he manages his career. He may have a big problem, he may also have it easier, more competition may also make him more motivated. Or it may overwhelm him. Today, boxers and sports stars do not succumb to madness so much and the crazy 80s are a distant past

Wilder - easy pick for Mike. Wilder has good endurance, good jaw, great cardio, killer instinct, great dynamics and punch plus sensational reach. But he has poor infighting, little skills, he retreats in a straight line. Tyson would be definitely too difficult to hit. Wilder would look like a windmill man, a terrible fight for Deontay. If Tyson caught him before 2020, this fight would promote Tyson a lot. Like the fight with Spinks
AJ - difficult fight for Mike. AJ has strength, athleticism, a strong punch, size.. But he has no jaw. And he does not take punches well. 50-50 favoring Tyson but he could get knocked out.

Fury - the most difficult opponent. Fury in form is too big, has too much skill and, a good jaw, mobility. He would be elusive. In my opinion 50-50 with an indication of.. Tyson Ok, Fury after 12 close rounds, which were not great. If Mike had run into Fury earlier, he would have appeared in the frying pan. If he had run into Fury, let's say after the trilogy with Wilder - Fury is his.

Usyk.- Maybe the best of them but in theory the best for Mike. If Tyson had avoided wars and difficult opponents apart from Wilder for almost the entire decade, i.e. from 2015 to 2025, maintained discipline and as a 30-year-old, somewhat past prime but still motivated boxer stood up for a unification fight with Usyk, he could be The Greatest because Usyk suits him in every respect but the Ukrainian could still win against him on points. I think Mike would have caught him though. In reality, AJ was close, Daniel was close.

To sum up - no, Tyson wouldn't win with everyone. No one has done it by fighting everyone. There is no such case in history, maybe apart from Joe Louis in a rather weak era. There is no one who would realistically dominate for more than 3-4 years fighting everyone. You can manage your career very well and get lucky. I think Tyson would have a harder time in the decade 2015-2025 than in the decade 1992-2002.