Who has the better wins Anthony Joshua or Oliver Mccall

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Which list of wins are better

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  1. Oliver Mccall

    16 vote(s)
    47.1%

  2. Anthony Joshua

    18 vote(s)
    52.9%
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  1. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    I really see this as the most dangerous fight Usyk could have taken, fair play to him. And I think he might get beaten.
     
    Philosopher, Jun 22, 2025 at 11:07 PM
    Philosopher, Jun 22, 2025 at 11:07 PM
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's a tag-team match up: Usyk vs Dubois + Father Time + as almost a heavily stacked deck as can be

    No one can answer this question

    How many world champions can you think of who have fought a way bigger, heavier, way younger prime savage punching KO artist with KO 95% in their backyard on a deck heavily stacked against them at 38.5 y/o?

    You have all of boxing history and the careers of countless legends of the sport to find as many instances or as many similar instances as you can.
     
    Serge, Jun 23, 2025 at 5:52 AM
    Serge, Jun 23, 2025 at 5:52 AM
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  3. Serge

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    He has 2 SD wins on his CV which he clearly won unanimously. Been robbed by 2 judges and one came awfully close to doing so in the first AJ fight inexplicably only scoring it to Usyk by a round. Miraculously he hasn't actually been robbed yet like his good buddy and countryman Loma and almost every other top, elite or great fighter from that region of the world but he very nearly has and getting robbed doesn't mean just by the judges the refs commit highway robbery too and they have numerous methods at their disposal to rig the fight in favour of the A side or the guy they want to win
     
    Serge, Jun 23, 2025 at 5:59 AM
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Lewis>>>Old Wlad
    My gut tells me Old Holmes was slightly better than Old Povetkin
    Parker>Akinwande
    Ruiz>Maskaev
    Whyte>Faded Damiani
    Seldon>Faded Pulev
    Martin>Ferguson

    3/8 for McCall with the Lewis win is good enough to edge it if we're only doing top 8. Says more about McCall being underrated than Joshua not being top 20 or top 30.
     
    NoNeck, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:21 AM
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  5. OddR

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    To be honest Lewis at 29 is a lot younger than Wlad at 41 on paper should be a better win for sure but Lewis got floored and eventually waved off by the ref by one power punch were as Wlad didn't.
     
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    OddR, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:25 AM
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well I hope Dubouis knocks him out, as I want no excuses LOLOLOL
    I don't want him to win by a dodgy decision if he does win
     
    AdamT, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:39 AM
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  7. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ better overall, but McCall has the better single win. Lennox Lewis was about the best scalp you could get in the 90's.
     
    Barrf, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:49 AM
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  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a bit of a BS stoppage. He could've gone on. I don't like stoppages like that, especially in a title fight. Two journeymen fighting? Sure, jump in, save them damage. A title fight? Let the man who got knocked down try to recover.
     
    Barrf, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:51 AM
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  9. OddR

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    I have heard it was a premature stoppage few times I can't really remember.
     
    OddR, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:56 AM
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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis got nailed, went down, got up by 8 i believe. Looked rattled but didn't look out of it.
     
    Barrf, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:57 AM
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  11. NoNeck

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    McCall was trying to throw that punch from the start. Steward’s whole gameplan was based on having McCall throw at the same time as Lewis.
     
    NoNeck, Jun 23, 2025 at 8:10 AM
    NoNeck, Jun 23, 2025 at 8:10 AM
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  12. Serge

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    Like I said it's not just the judges people need to be concerned about.
     
    Serge, Jun 23, 2025 at 8:14 AM
    Serge, Jun 23, 2025 at 8:14 AM
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  13. BCS8

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    He's not a good boxer. The tape doesn't lie. If you think he has those sweet skills then you need glasses.
     
    BCS8, Jun 23, 2025 at 11:14 AM
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet he would KO aj

    Define good boxer
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Jun 23, 2025 at 11:16 AM
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  15. BCS8

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    He relies on toughness and power. He's got no outstanding qualities beyond that. I mean he's got enough skills to hang about but he's never going to outjab guys, use his feet on them etc. His defence is leaky and he's not particularly fast. McCall has a fabulous chin and a big punch. But his skills are average at best.
     
    BCS8, Jun 23, 2025 at 11:24 AM
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