Is Crawford really in the same class as Floyd? Or is he more Cotto, McGirt, Meldrick, and Benitez

Ya well, I'm on record 5 years ago. I'm glad you finally joined the party. Better late then never.

 

Why are we pretending that Bud is Sugar Ray Leonard? The dude was going neck and neck with Porter for 10 rounds, got stunned by Mean Machine, and got a run-of-the-mill 116-112 against B-rate Madrimov at 154, now he's jumping up 2 divisions and taking on the premier 168 fighter. Not to mention that he's older than Canelo. When Bud gets flattened on Netflix everyone will be pointing fingers saying "we shouldn't have let this happen." The weight difference alone is horrendous and should've made the fight unsanctionable.

 

As if Cotto didn't almost beat him. Same class? Yeah. Cotto, Floyd and Crawford are peers. If they all fought one another 10 times, nobody would have an "0".

 

Maybe you should rematch the madrimov and porter fights. Also, when crawford outclasses canelo with ease i don't wanna hear any excuses.

 

If I think we are agreeing?
Floyd beat a younger, fresher version of Canelo, who already had several world-ranked wins. Floyds performance was magestic really. Stick and move with enough power to slow down the bigger hitting fighter.
Crawford has made a career of feasting on smaller fighters while draining down, a brilliant offensive fighter, but he's no Floyd. All fighters face some weak comp at some points, but shot to bits Khan, Shot to bits Brook, Avanesyan, a tough Euro-level fighter and Kavaliauskas a good performance against Spence a good win against Madrimov don't really convince me he's ready for Canelo.

I think it will be a tough fight and a narrow points win either way.

 

I'm not saying it's an easy win for Bud. Just saying if Crawford is anywhere near the level of Floyd, he should win easily due to Canelo aging since Floyd beat him. It's difficult to say where Bud stands due to his level of opposition. The Canelo fight should answer some questions.

 

I don't know about that. This past it Canelo is better than the one Floyd fought.

 

Disagree. Canelo always struggled against guys with a good jab and decent movement. Floyd, Lara, Bivol. Fans want to act like Canelo got so much better after Floyd beat him, he didn't. He may have added some things, but never really figured out how to beat highly skilled boxers convincingly. As to this version of Canelo being better than the version Floyd beat.... no. Canelo, hasn't set up traps, use his jab, no head movement, his last few fights he just moves in and loads up on power shots. Look at the diffrence between the 1st Golovkin fight and Bivol. He was much more fluid, great head movement, flawless counters.

 

Bud was ducked by Danny Garcia and Keith Thurman. Bud literally made contractual offers to Danny and Keith. Danny passed on the fight for Granados (2019) and Keith demanded $10M (even though he got $2.5M to fight Pacman). Speaking of Pacman, I would NEVER accuse Manny if ducking because he NEVER did, but Freddy did say they passed on Crawford fight circa 2015-2016ish.

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Crawford had to wait years, too, for Porter and Spence fights. People blame that on him signing with Top Rank, but PBC permitted Wilder to fight Fury (Top Rank) three times.

 

We are about to find out…

 

Two things: Yes, great jabs and fighters who are fluid greatly trouble Canelo...but Jermell had a great jab although kind of straight up amd down...and Canelo had no issue w Jermell. Obviously Bud is more like Floyd and less like Jermell but Bud also relies on his power like Jermell (and not Floyd - who relied on skill/traps) to impose his will. When Bud hasnt succeeded at imposing his will, i.e., Madrimov, he has looked exceedingly average. Many people had Bud's fight w Madrimov a draw or even an Israel win...Bud simply didnt look good. So I dont know how Bud will look at 168 given he will be 38 years old. Can he be fluid? Absolutely. Can he outbox for 12 rounds against a MUCH larger opponent? Remains to be seen because Canelo will not respect Bud's power, that much we DO know.

What you said about Canelo today being very different from the Canelo that danced and dazzled against Danny Jacobs or that went 24 rounds against GGG in fights 1+2 is VERY different than the Canelo fighting today. His stamina is even worse and his combination punching is nonexistent. Whats worse is his offense is very linear - occasional jab with heavy emphasis on loopinh hooks, uppercuts, overhands. Very rarely is Canelo even throwing a straight right hand anymore...Canelo simply needs to be active against Bud whose smaller frame will not be able to absorb shots the way GGG, Bivol, or Jacobs could. Bud is a glorified WW whose power translated very little at 154 let alone...168. Can Canelo keep his activity up? Will he be able to maintain output? Or will he get puzzled like he did versus Floyd and Bivol and Lara?

 

Those questions will be answered for sure.

 

Cue the Floyd Best Ever Yo! simps.

 

People have difficulty grasping this. The reality is NOBODY out of Floyd, Canelo, Manny, Bud, or Cotto go 10-0 against one another - it doesnt happen, period. Yes, Manny slaughtered Cotto but that was pristine matchmaking. Let me see the Cotto that fought Margs fight Manny...not the confidence shot-to-**** Cotto who used a rookie trainer coming off a gift decision against Clottey...

Let me see the Canelo that fought in GGG2 at 160 and not a catchweight or rehydration clause. Canelo would fare much, much better. And he would outright win more than 1 out of 10 fights versus Floyd.