Is it inevitable that Usyk will be considered the H2H GOAT in boxing history

Usyk has to get past Dubois. And everything around this fight is smelling like an upset. Not acting like himself at a presser? Firing his promoter?

 

I kind of like @themaster458's content farming theory.

 

Me looking at the so called "ATG" resume of Usyk at HW when it's just an old past his best Son of Francis Ngannou, a post Ruiz Joshua and the epitome of a quitter

 

Lewis has easily the better resume: Two legendary punchers (Tua, Tyson), the great Holyfield, Klitschko, he avenged his two losses, and he scored KOs against many interesting B+ fighters like Briggs, Morrison, and Bruno. Exceptional resume. That's what defines an H2H GOAT.

It would be a difficult task for Usyk to pass through this exact same adversity with similar results, as fighting more tends to wear you down.

 

The result is still the same, whatever you may think at the end of the day Byrd was a 215lbs guy moving like a middleweight and Foreman was a 217lbs guy in his prime moving like a SHW.

 

Usyk has not faced Parker or Kabayel yet.

Therefore, "No"

 

Losing 25 rounds in 7 fights to 5 opponents. The whole foul controversy in his most impressive win against a green Dubois.

GOAT. How will future generations be able to deny the inevitable truth that Usyk is the most talented HW who ever lived? Wladimir Klitschko walked so Usyk could run just like the fish that walked on land. Chris Byrd was flying. Evolution.

 

Again, I'm not even sure Usyk is better than his own countrymen, Wlad and Vitali...it's a legitimate conversation. Let alone GOAT...ffs XD

 

a great video comparative here, pretty level assessments as far as I can see...

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Oh and I also agree about Parker.

 

Usyk is not the head to head GOAT. Fighting once a year for 5 years and rematching the same opponents all the time won’t give him that tag. His number just never came up because he hadn’t been put through the wringer fighting on a regular basis but July 19th he will be defeated.

 

This comic thread is an example of the millennial fan who's knowledge of boxing is paper thin

 

Nothing in the fight is smelling like an upset. The Dubois/Charles champ has talked you into a narrative. Dubois used his hack-job tactics and headbutted-low blowed his way to wins over the mediocre Miller and Hrgovic, and devastated a Joshua who is already thrice-beaten, twice by Usyk. Now all of a sudden the man who made Dubois quit with a jab and gifted him a charity belt is ready to go.

Why?

 

Parker is a great fight that needs to happen, but Kabayel is not there yet, and I have been a fan since he beat Chisora.

Ask yourself, if you were Usyk, would you gain anything from a guy whose best wins were Makhmudov, Sanchez, Chisora and Zhang? It's a good crew, but not one that makes you a history making guy.

Now Parker-YEAH! former WBO titlist with wins over Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Chisora, Bakole...throw in Dimentenko, Takam, Botha, Meehan, Fa, Leapai, Hughfury for depth.

Parker has earned the chance, and I hope Usyk wakes up are realizes that this is the only fight left that can increase his legacy, so they both have reasons to do it.

 

different kind of risk. The risk from Parker is being outboxed. Which, honestly, isn’t likely to happen to Usyk. The risk from Kabayel is him punching you in your liver so hard that it exits your body through your anus, and then getting cracked in the jaw as your liver exits.

on resume he isn’t there yet, but in terms of risk, Kabayel kind of looks like a boogeyman. I’d love to see him fight Bakole. They’d stand center ring and slug until one fell over. Would be epic.