Larry Holmes (1992) Vs Floyd Patterson (1967)

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  1. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    Two guys a few years removed from their respective reigns as champions, who wins? I feel like regardless of the winner, the fight would be great.

    I think Patterson likely has the best chances here, but it's also his fight to lose. He's gonna have to recover from a knockdown or two on his way to the finish line (Holmes might get dropped once or twice as well, though I have no doubt he'll last the distance).
     
  2. Journeyman92

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    Not a great fight Holmes would batter Patterson and KO him in the early hours of the evenings entertainment.
     
  3. Journeyman92

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    I highly, highly doubt Patterson KD’s Holmes too… Holmes would blink at his punches he’s just too big to care, Patterson can’t do anything with him once he’s on the back foot he’d be lined up and gunned down on the way in he’d get the Marvis Frazier treatment. If Holmes decided to show his uppercut it’s over.
     
  4. SixesAndSevens

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    Holmes isn't some monster power puncher like Johansson or Liston. Maybe he'd stop him, but it would not be a battering, especially when Patterson has a speed advantage and VASTLY improved his skills by the time of '67. Watch him take on Quarry twice, that man is not going to get ripped apart by old man Larry, and any stoppage will not be with ease.

    In '92, Holmes was hurt against Mercer and Holyfield, and later, he was hurt against Ferguson and McCall. Patterson had better skills than over half these guys, and he certainly possessed a better left hook than Ferguson (which sent Larry careening for the ropes). He's not gonna get lined up and gunned down, I don't know what old Holmes performance makes you think that he'd be able to decimate Patterson with ease, lol.

    Just a lotta downplay, and tbh I have to assume you read the title as 1982 and not 1992.
     
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  5. Reinhardt

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    Hmm? the 1992 version of Holmes loses to the 67 version of Patterson. 67 Floyd is better than the Spinks that upset Larry years before .Floyd is much too quick for an old Larry Holmes..Patterson by close UD
     
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    I don't have any issues with your predicted outcome, but I will say that this version of Larry would've beaten the Spinks that dethroned him years earlier, so there's no reason to bring him up.
     
  7. BCS8

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    I feel that Holmes has all the tools to control Patterson with. He has the size and skills and toughness and Patterson has ... what? Speed, and Roy Jones' chin. I'd be shocked if Floyd pulled it off against a mean machine like Holmes.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

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    I understand what you're saying but Holmes lost to Spinks when he was 36 and arguably did win the second fight. He beat Mercer at 42 because of styles, an advantage he would not have against Floyd and fighters are not better at 42 than they were at 36 .
     
  9. SixesAndSevens

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    Age does not automatically determine a fighter's skill level... Holmes won against Mercer not only due to styles, but also due to the fact that he was actually keeping up with his training. Mercer would've beaten the same Holmes that Spinks did, because Larry simply just wasn't in the fight.

    Rewatch the Spinks and Mercer fights, and you'll see that there's a difference.
     
  10. Kid Bacon

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    As far as Patterson relies on speed and mobility to circle around and stay out of a brawl then he can win a boring and predictable decision.

    Both of them had faded by 1992 and 1967, respectively; but I feel Larry's decline was deeper.
     
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  11. PRW94

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    I actually think this would be an interesting fight and I am going with Floyd. Floyd may have been the best he ever was at that point in time.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Really? That's a hard sell. Even if you take the rematch, Holmes of 92 was not the Holmes of that fight. I'd absolutely favor Spinks over 92 Holmes. The difference between the ring craft and skill of Mercer and Spinks is almost too vast to put into words.
     
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  13. Philosopher

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    Spinks is a wonderful boxer, much more skilled than Ray. But Ray beats him. The best version of Ray, say the one who lost to Lewis, is several shades of wrong for Mike. A great jab, unrelenting pressure, consistent heavy hands and a great chin. Spinks will have a Tyson style moment of doubt sometime after halfway as he realises he can do nothing to deter Mercer and will capitulate by the 10th...
     
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  14. Journeyman92

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    You don’t need to be a monster puncher to hurt Floyd Patterson it’d be a matter of accuracy and style. I also don’t believe it’s downplay when we are talking about a famously “chinny” fighter who was about 185lbs in his prime and not hard to hit. Larry was like Ali with pop and a bad attitude he’d finish Patterson. In 92 he was hurt (possibly) but not in serious danger against Mercer a 228lbs HW and similarly against Evander Holyfield a 210lbs or so walking chemist who hurt Tyson, Bowe and Mercer… neither dropped him, neither had him in serious danger and you’re suggesting on the strength of that Patterson may drop him a few times? Larry would beat the S out of him in 5-8 rounds tops if he wants to try to stop him.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see him outslicked by Spinks, but Spinks would be walking on eggshells all night.

    We were talking about Spinks vs 92 Holmes tho.
     
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