Muhammad Ali vs the K2 brothers

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  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    if he could survive barrages from Big George he won't get stopped by Wlad.
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Ali didn’t get stopped by Shavers no way Enry Cooper would even hurt him in Ali’s prime!
     
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  3. BCS8

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    The way Ali told it he was knocked down by some low cut cleavage in the front row ...
     
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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    You can trust what he says when it’s convenient with the Alis Samson meets Hercules agenda.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    Wlad would turn it into a battle of size and jabs, where he has the advantages. I think what JM92 is saying is that if Ali tried to get inside to make a fight of it that he would find himself badly outgunned. If Ali fell into the silent agreement that so many of Wlad's opponents did, and played the outside game, he would see the end with a points loss.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Ali wasn't even hurt by Shavers. Easiest win ever ...
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

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    Just rewatched Wlad vs Haye tbh I don't think wlads the harder fight I am starting to think it's Vitali
     
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  8. BCS8

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    They both pose significant challenges. Wlad has the better weapon against speedsters in the form of his radar-guided jab. Vitali is more awkward and overall just a wierd stylistic challenge for most boxers. He uses his size and reflexes really well.
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Look at the primitive knuckle draggers attempting to pass off their rabid tribalism as thoughtful analysis. :qmeparto::qmeparto:

    Its Ali today. Bowe last week , Mike Tyson before that , Holyfield going 0-3 before that. .

    Don't you know by know that k2 bros defeat everyone that ever lived. Including Hercules.

    Wlads treadmill was running on a log in the water. Thats how great he is.

    Meanwhile in the real world , Wlad struggles with DavVaryl Williamson , and in between rounds Manny Steward has to calm him down by saying don't worry he's no Ali :lol:

    Luckily for Wlad, a little scratch bailed him out of what what was looking to become another loss. Then he avoided the rematch.. Hence why the IBF pushed Williamson forward for the title shot.

    Sure Wlad could beat Ali. . All he needs is a spongy canvas so Ali can't use the ring. Then he needs Ali to stand right in front of him and not move like Tyson Fury did. :qmeparto:
     
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  10. Journeyman92

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    Wlad just has to be better than Doug Jones and Enry Cooper eh? - and Ali just has to be better than DavVaryl Williamson, no good of a fight bring on some real fighters.
     
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  11. Philosopher

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    I think this is the wrong language. He didn't survive barrages from George. He took them. He was never in trouble, had nothing to survive, he relied on his conditioning and his own strength. If anything, Foreman 'survived' until Ali stopped him. Ali took a beating on his own terms, Foreman got battered that night, I actually think it's a testament to his fortitude that he lasted as long as he did.

    Vitali would not whale away like an enraged bull. To calculated. He isn't as heavy handed as George but I think he is as powerful if you see what I mean. People are saying he wasn't a come forward pressure fighter but he WAS a pressure fighter. You couldn't relax against Vitali, couldn't go walk about. He hit hard and often and had a great engine and a great chin. I made a Kenny Norton comparison earlier and it's not as daft as it maybe sounds. Awkward, herky jerky style, unorthodox punches but with a better chin than Kenny had. I could honestly see Vitali setting a high pace, a constant pace and bullying Ali over 12....


    ...but I can see Ali pre exile gliding around him, peppering him with punches and out hussling him...but Vitali is long, can Ali get inside, get close enough?

    Many think this would be a boring fight...but I think the best Vitali v the best Ali would be a great back and forth fight and id not be surprised to see Vitali win...
     
  12. OddR

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    But you think they lose to everyone so.....
     
  13. OddR

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    Haye's speed made it hard to land clean yeah but pretty dominant performance from Wlad.
     
  14. MaccaveliMacc

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    Wlad hits harder than George tho.
     
  15. dinovelvet

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    Low IQ take ^

    They're delivery of punch was not the same.

    Foreman was looser and threw with more variety. Still a devastating hitter.
    If he lined guys up , planted his feet , pulled back and launched punches at stationary targets like Klitschko did , the opponent would probably die.

    David Haye simply isn't going 12 rounds without ever being stunned or floored again Foreman.