Muhammad Ali vs the K2 brothers

Would you break it down? As an Ali fan I’d be curious to see your thoughts on the matter.

 

I’m with @cross_trainer when I think of if Ali fought Vitali it wouldn’t be so much close as very unsatisfactory, awkward and with very little sustained success by either man lol.

 

Vitali always looked a little uncomfortable and awkward stalking people, for some reason. There may be a stylistic reason for it that you'd see more easily than I could. In any event, fighters tend to fight the same way they always do, even if they are clever enough to realize that it's not the best way to win a particular fight.

From what I remember of Vitali/Donald, there were pieces of it that sort of looked like I would expect Ali/Vitali to look. Donald on the outside, dodging punches but not doing much. Vitali also on the outside, not pressing Donald much, throwing floppy jabs that didn't connect often and the occasional hit when Donald tried to blitz in. Vitali seemed to land more to the back of the head than on target, and Donald couldn't do much beyond looking evasive in the bits I saw. Vitali did start going after Donald's body after a while, but it was a straight right with Vitali's head mostly up there and unguarded, and Donald could occasionally land a counter. (More often a hook, iirc.) Ali had a decent and fast, if sloppy, counter hook, so I could see him having some brief moments of success if Vitali does that. Though Ali would also be absorbing the scoring body punches.

So yeah, that's how I think this fight would go. Dead on arrival, with Ali unable to press the action, too negative on the outside, and Vitali too slow of foot to force it. Ali probably gets booed a bit more, and I'd perhaps slightly favor Vitali, but the fight would mostly appeal to those who'd find it historically interesting.

 

I think you’re 100% correct. It’d be Boo’d like crazy by rd 5 and no matter the winner no one would care for a rematch, Ali might wait for Vitali to lose and vice versa for the title.

 

Just gonna add, Wlad would absolutely destroy Ali - bad, stoppage if Ali tried to fight his way out of the inevitable.

 

if he could survive barrages from Big George he won't get stopped by Wlad.

 

Ali didn’t get stopped by Shavers no way Enry Cooper would even hurt him in Ali’s prime!

 

The way Ali told it he was knocked down by some low cut cleavage in the front row ...

 

You can trust what he says when it’s convenient with the Alis Samson meets Hercules agenda.

 

Wlad would turn it into a battle of size and jabs, where he has the advantages. I think what JM92 is saying is that if Ali tried to get inside to make a fight of it that he would find himself badly outgunned. If Ali fell into the silent agreement that so many of Wlad's opponents did, and played the outside game, he would see the end with a points loss.

 

Ali wasn't even hurt by Shavers. Easiest win ever ...

 

Just rewatched Wlad vs Haye tbh I don't think wlads the harder fight I am starting to think it's Vitali

 

They both pose significant challenges. Wlad has the better weapon against speedsters in the form of his radar-guided jab. Vitali is more awkward and overall just a wierd stylistic challenge for most boxers. He uses his size and reflexes really well.

 

Look at the primitive knuckle draggers attempting to pass off their rabid tribalism as thoughtful analysis.

Its Ali today. Bowe last week , Mike Tyson before that , Holyfield going 0-3 before that. .

Don't you know by know that k2 bros defeat everyone that ever lived. Including Hercules.

Wlads treadmill was running on a log in the water. Thats how great he is.

Meanwhile in the real world , Wlad struggles with DavVaryl Williamson , and in between rounds Manny Steward has to calm him down by saying don't worry he's no Ali

Luckily for Wlad, a little scratch bailed him out of what what was looking to become another loss. Then he avoided the rematch.. Hence why the IBF pushed Williamson forward for the title shot.

Sure Wlad could beat Ali. . All he needs is a spongy canvas so Ali can't use the ring. Then he needs Ali to stand right in front of him and not move like Tyson Fury did.

 

Wlad just has to be better than Doug Jones and Enry Cooper eh? - and Ali just has to be better than DavVaryl Williamson, no good of a fight bring on some real fighters.