In order for Bud to exceed Floyd Mayweather he has to completely dominate and stop Canelo

This thing about caring. You don't care about Crawfords 2x undisputed.

Maybe someone doesn't care about Crawford surpassing Mayweather.
Maybe someone doesn't care about Hatton or Corrales.
Maybe someone doesn't care about a tainted victory like FMjr vs MP.
And maybe somebody doesn't care if Crawford knocks Canelo out or not.

 

Crawford would KO Canelo, and he wouldn't surpass Canelo himself, let alone Mayweather. This is how weak Crawford's resume is. However, if we get a good fight, and if Canelo shows flashes of his past form, with a part 2 or even a trilogy, in that case, it's possible that Crawford could be regarded as better than Canelo, both fighter-wise and career-wise. One big win won't be enough though.

 

The catchweight excuse is a myth.

In Canelo's previous fight to Mayweather he was 153 pounds which is a grand total of 1 pound difference to what he weighed vs Mayweather at 152 pounds. Canelo also rehydrated and weighed 165 pounds so he had a 14 pound weight advantage over Mayweather.

Canelo also had over 40 fights and had fought in 7 world title fights so he was hardly some green prospect.

It's strange to me this is one of rare occurrences the older fighter past his prime fighting above his best weightclass yet its the younger fighter that gets all the excuses.

 

Canelo was more experienced than Dubouis and Floyd nearly as old as usyk, with many more pro fights. Close to double. It's also more likely that heavy weights usually age better and can fight for longer

My point of usyk and dubois is, many are making excuses of age for usyk should he lose. That's fine of course, but shouldn't a 36 year old, smaller Floyd be given huge credit for comprehensively schooling canelo at the tender age of 36? Similar to how we will credit usyk if he wins this month?

 

Let's be real it's because Usyk is liked and Mayweather isn't so people pick and choose the narrative it's as simple as that.

If Usyk was a Super Featherweight who moved all the way up to Jr Middleweight and beat a young champion who would go on to become a top P4P fighter.

People on this forum would be hailing that win for Usyk as a monumental achievement.

 

We know this, but double standards are alive and well

Anyway, Floyd is hated and is a ****, so most will never give his achievements any credit

 

a knockout of a man who is in the running for p4p best chin of this era, no less. Is in the discussion for best p4p chin ever.

A KO is not happening. Canelo is almost impossible to hurt. Between his chin and defense, good luck. I’d mention his recovery but I don’t really have any idea of what that’s like, as it would require someone to hurt him in the first place. Which never seems to happen.

could Bud win on the cards? Sure. But he’s not winning via KO.

 

Stopping Canelo is not necessarily tougher than what Floyd did. Floyd boxed a masterpiece. But if he stops him like he stopped Spence, meaning via domination, then yes. It will improve his chances in hypothetical match ups. The ability to hurt guys matters.

 

I'm assuming "surpass" in this context means obtaining a better resume.

Floyd's resume poops all over Crawfords.
Bud could ko Canelo during Michael Buffers intro and it would not change the facts.

 

IMO no scenario exists where Crawfords resume surpasses Floyd's. Regardless if he knocks out Canelo, not even sure it surpasses Canelos's resume. Just a better H2H position. I very well could be dead wrong but its just my completely worthless opinion. I'm not a fan of Floyd at all but I appreciate the man's greatness.

 

In order to even have a chance to be next to Mayweather, he would have to travel back in time and beat Keith Thurman when he was still good, Errol Spence before the accident, Jaron Ennis probably around the time he actually fought Spence, and Jermell Charlo when he was undisputed.

Beating a faded version of Canelo (but still a superior and bigger version than the green one Floyd fought) just isn’t enough.

His best wins are likely compromised Errol Spence and Victor Postol.. Take nothing away from Bud, but Floyd just beat a lot of really good fighters.. I’m not sure Bud has a better win than Marcos Maidana realistically, who is several wins off of being Floyd’s best.

Sadly Buds win over Spence is kinda similar to Floyd’s over Pac, even though it should have been career defining… There’s good reason to say it may have always went that way, but there’s also good reason to say it wouldn’t have..

 

How can Crawford surpass FMJr when he hasn´t even beaten his Zab Judah yet?

 

A Crawford win over Canelo would be historically significant, but I don't think his overall resume surpasses Mayweather's.

I also like Mayweather head-to-head, though it's certainly no "gimme" at 147lbs.

(The Flo-mos are probably glazing themselves now).

 

If Crawford beats Canelo in any fashion there will be recency bias and some people will say he has surpassed Floyd. I personally think Crawford even with that win doesn’t have the resume. If we were just listing accomplishments, Floyd would win out rather easily. But Crawford would definitely put himself in the conversation and would be considered the best of his era.