Muhammad Ali vs the K2 brothers

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True but he wasn't really doing much offensively that really impressed me mostly just landing cross counters and 1-2s i think it was more a sign Bugner couldn't keep him at range at all rather then displaying how good Ali was on the front foot
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

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    I dont know Bugner being more skilled but I do agree that Ali vs Vitali may resemble that fight.

    I dont think Ali would have to fight Wlad aggressively, if anything Wladimir would be the one chasing him down, but Vitali is a different story. I am in the minority and think Vitali is the harder fight for Ali than Wladimir, Wlad couldn't dominate the fleet footed Williamson and got dropped too. Vitalis lean back style, larger size, iron chin and workrate would add up, but his arm punches are vulnerable to slick fighters that is evident
     
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  3. ThatOne

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    Bugner looked good against Frazier. That wasn't peak Frazier but he was on the comeback trail and had all the motivation in the world.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

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    Bugner is a proper boxer.
    Look at that fight I posted.
    Vitali fought all throughout his career like a converted kickboxer. Johnson showed a blueprint for how a better boxer could expose his flaws.
    He has no defensive technique whatsoever. It's no coincidence his face fell off against the worst Lewis that ever entered the ring
     
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  5. ThatOne

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    That was something and Lennox was way past his best by date.
     
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  6. themaster458

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    True Terrell just seemed like he has no idea what to do at range and tried to fight Ali on the inside for some reason.... Surprisedly he had some success with it at first till he didn't
     
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  7. BCS8

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    Wow what a beating Johnson took. Vitali totally dominated him.
     
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  8. ThatOne

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    I'm watching the fight now. The Bugner of the first Ali fight and the Frazier fight would put Kevin Johnson through a clinic.
     
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  9. ThatOne

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    Soviet trained fighters are so mechanical. Gate poison.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Thats how good Johnson was against someone who knew how to apply pressure and put a combination of punches together. Joshua didn't miss a punch never mind 800 punches lmao

    2 round obliteration.

    If Povetkin did that to Kingpin the cruds would be creaming their pants.
     
  11. ThatOne

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    Kevin Johnson reminds me of a homeless man's James Toney. I believe he lost his next twenty fights. Off the top of my head I can name 10 70s hws who beat him, maybe 15.
     
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  12. SouthpawsRule

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    You do know Vitali was 38 and was having his 4th fight after a 4 year break right? LMAO.

    OT: Wlad wins for sure, Ali could potentially out-move Vitali to a decision but I see Vitali winning the majority as well.
     
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    This is how good Ali was against a guy who knew how to apply pressure and put combination punches together. Holy cow what a beating, its almost like Ali was a shot fighter here:

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  14. ThatOne

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    Would you like me to name my ten seventies heavyweights who would be favored to beat Johnson prime for prime and five who would be pickems?
     
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  15. themaster458

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    I mean you're comparing a journeyman fighter with actual top contenders not really a fair comparison nor does it tell you much about either era