Tucker's hand broken or just an excuse ?

Stop taking context in account when it suits you, Thomas and Spinks didn’t do anything after Tyson either, McCall was at least young mileage-wise and in his physical peak.

Spinks HW resume is a shot Cooney and an old Holmes. Literally did nothing else, faced no other styles.

Yeah, thats how peek a boo works lmao.

 

Spinks dethroned Holmes in his first heavyweight fight, Holmes was still capable of beating Mercer afterwards. It's an atg win. If Spinks were around today and dethroned an old Uyk people would be calling him an one of the goats i guarantee it

 

Spinks retired and Thomas relapsed and stopped taking boxing seriously. Stop ignoring context.

Spinks won the Holmes and Cooney fights as an underdog. Douglas made zero title defenses.

You seem a little riled up. Show me a single fighter who Douglas beat other that Tyson who used explosive combos from midrange. Tyson beat a bunch of fighters who were like Douglas. You’d think the opposite would be true.

 

Doesnt matter in the slightest lmao. Spinks had bad knees and retired immediately. Thomas regardless of the cause (which you cant ever prove beyond hearsays) turned into a punching bag right after Tyson beat him. How is that better than Berbick going undefeated for 7 years after losing to Douglas? It isnt.

Bunch of irrelevant stuff with no correlation with each other again, Cooney was at his worst and Holmes was just one guy. How do we know it wasn’t just another Norton vs Ali situation? Douglas proved himself at HW more than Spinks did in more varied situations.

Tyson beat literally no one that fought him like Douglas did, and Douglas himself didnt fight with anyone like Tyson other than the man himself.

 

Tucker didnt stand his ground, Ruddock literally headbutted Tysons punches and threw his own on the inside and Im pretty sure I could outbox Smith. Im not saying any strong HW beats Tyson, but before Douglas Tyson never faced with that type of a HW before. The type that had elite boxing skills and the strength to stay in his face when needed. I think that was a bigger factor than Tyson randomly turning into a bum overnight.

Regarding your other comment I rate the first Holmes win very high, but the rematch makes it iffy and the fact that one guy is Spinks’ only real success doesnt sit well with me, I dont rank Bowe high either cuz he only really beat Holyfield.

 

“Lmao”=you’re mad

Tell me about this one fight Spinks had after Tyson that you edited out of your original post.

Douglas was one of many 80s heavyweights who vaguely resembled Ali. Tyson beat most of the better ones.

 

No, it was the tactics, Holyfield used the exact same tactics and beat Tyson. Smothering to halt his attack, make in uncomfortable on the inside, throwing uppercuts, making Tyson reset and keeping a jab on him. Also Tucker is better than Douglas, It's like saying Douglas didn't stand his ground because he was on the backfoot all night. Douglas wasn't forcing Tyson back with his strength and battering him, he was on the backfoot all night and clinched Tyson a thousand times, also had a long count.

Smith isn't as crude as you remember, watch him against Witherspoon, Bruno and Ferguson. Joe Joyce, the guy who beat Parker and Dubois makes this guy look like Lennox Lewis

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He couldn't do anything to Tyson

 

If only there were examples of a fighter giving another fighter more problems than about equally as good or even better fighters did... Can't be, right?

We all know Norton and Frazier beat Foreman and Duran beat Hearns, right? And Chisora gave Usyk at least as much problems as Fury did, so would be a very even fight if they ever met. Oh, wait... And I must have dreamt that Joyce beat Parker and Zhang beat Joyce and Parker beat Zhang. Because that would defy basic logic.

 

Are you talking up Smith's skills now? Just ****ing give over will you.

Not being as horrible as Joyce isn't saying much. He was also 50 lbs lighter and 3 inches taller.

 

Picked a side ? How about you watch the ****ing videos and tell me how Smith is some crude slugger with bad fundamentals. Absolute BS i have to type any of this. Smith knocked Witherspoon and Bruno out. You detractors will make **** up on the fly and regurgitate the same nonesense

 

Are you ****ing kidding me? Are you for real or are you trolling? Witherspoon easily beat him the first time, which you of course omit, then was caught in the first round. Bruno soundly outboxed him before getting caught. There was no ****ing skill on display from Smith. Have some dignity.

 

Smith didn't win more than one round on any scorecard in the first fight against Witherspoon.

Smith could bang and had a rock solid chin, but he wasn't at all skilled.

 

Witherspoon ran it close with Holmes, and Smith still knocked Bruno the **** out after a competitive fight. So much for skill huh, Witherspoon was arguably the most technically nuanced in the 80s and still got sparked. Smith being a basic boxer doesn't detract from his solid fundamentals, his well right hand over the jab, and his power. He isn't a 1 trick pony lol now please explain everything Smith did wrong and wasn't capable of doing. Ridiculous

 

Smith won one completed round over two fights with Witherspoon. And Bruno was well ahead and outboxed Smith. Calling Smith skilled is taking this forum to a new low. Just to defend your hero. Sorry that this makes me rude, but it actually annoys me.

Smith was powerful and teak tough. Take that and leave.

Buster smacked your He-Man's ass. Accept that and move on.

 

Which fight do you want me to rewatch? The one you didn't pretend exist and where he won one round?

He was slow and basic with little defense and would not hava won one major fight if not for his power. He lost to Marvis Frazier for chrissakes. Stop being such a crazy fan boy. You Tyson nuthuggers are worse than the Duran ones even, because they tend to know more about boxing than just their guy. You guys just worship at one altar.

But that will be enough of this.