Oleksandr Usyk vs Lennox Lewis

Lewis couldn't put a dent in a 214lbs Mavrovic despite throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him and Mavrovic being ill with a severe muscle-wasting disease which lead to him losing a lot of weight and never fighting again.

Mavrovic had been coming in about 220-223lbs for his previous 7-8 fights when healthy but he was only 214lbs for Lewis. And not only that but Mavrovic boxed Lewis' fight and didn't use his legs and movement. Had he done so he would've given Lewis fits. Lewis breathed a huge sigh of relief when the decision was announced because of how mentally and physically draining the fight had been for him.

Mavrovic had him breathing out of his ass in the championship rounds and Lewis got up on his toes and started trying to outbox Mavrovic in the final round, exhausted and missing with most of his punches as Marvovic was walking him down. One more round and Lewis would've been done, let alone if it was a 15 rounder.

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Now imagine what a prime Usyk would've done to him. He would've been constantly moving buzzing around him like a fly making him miss way more than Mavrovic did and depleting his energy reserves.

If AJ is a ''poor man's Lewis'' what the hell do you think Mavrovic is to Usyk? Usyk is faster, much slicker, way better defensively and way more elusive, is a combination puncher, has a great chin too and unlike Mavrovic he wasn't knocked out in the amateurs, and with a insane engine and the ability to really up the tempo late in fights.

Usyk is a box of tricks unlike anything Lewis has ever seen.

We've seen Usyk outbox these SHW giants many times and he didn't even become a champion at HW until he was almost 35 or become undisputed until he was 37 and he was already past his prime and very noticeably slower, less fluid, accurate with slower reflexes and reaction times before he beat AJ the first time.

Lewis is so clever and adaptable he can prove he can do something he's never done without ever doing it once

Usyk's speed, brilliant footwork and movement, slickness, defence, elite skills and ring IQ alone would cause the much bigger and slower Lewis fits and then add Usyk's crazy engine, work rate, heart, fierce will to win, and great chin into the mix and he has everything to cause Lewis nightmares

And I'm taking about prime Usyk not this 38.5 y/o well past his best version who is at an age, older or a lot older when you deemed all favs shot or way past their best but the ''inferior'' to them Usyk is immune to the ageing process in your eyes just like you deemed steroids and PEDs placebos when so many of your favs jousted them in their buttocks.

Lewis gets one punch sparked out cold/one punch ironed out x 2 in the midst of his prime to fighters he was bigger than and Usyk would've boxed the ears off but if Usyk were to lose to the way bigger, younger, savage punching Dubois in his backyard at 38.5 y/o and years past his prime on a deck which couldn't be anymore stacked against him and you will deem it a way worse loss, you will absolutely crucify him for it, and consider it a legacy destroying loss.

The double standards are insane and maybe you guys are too. You say he's inferior but consider him immune to the ageing process and hold him to a far higher standard than you do all your favs, a completely impossible standard.

Usyk literally walked Belly down in both fights, you think he's going to employ those same tactics vs Lewis? He might do when he has Lewis blowing out of his ass in the championship rounds like Mavrovic did but he would opt to outbox Lewis

I guarantee you every single one of you picking Lewis to beat Usyk and not giving Usyk a chance would've picked Lewis to spark out Mavrovic in a few rounds. Guess what? You would've all been badly wrong again just like so many of you were so badly wrong about Usyk beating AJ and Belly.

Hell, you were utterly adamant a prime Usyk would never even win a belt up at HW, let alone become undisputed when past his prime on a deck stacked/heavily stacked against him but we're supposed to take you seriously?

 

One guy has actually outboxed SHW sized giants many times who are much bigger and more powerful than him and became undisputed in a division he doesn't belong in when already past his prime on a deck stacked against him, the other has never even fought a slick southpaw, let alone a much smaller faster one even remotely close to Usyk's level and proved he can overcome the stylistic challenge it would pose him.

We've literally never seen Lewis in there with someone with Usyk's style but he supposedly wins easy against this style he's never fought?

Lewis didn't merely ''lose twice'' he got HL reel one punch sparked out cold/one punch HL reel ironed out in the midst of his prime by fighters he was bigger than. This happens so often I'm struggling to think of another great fighter it's ever happened to

How many can you think of?

You say AJ and Wlad have glass jaws, but Lewis doesn't? Well that has never happened to AJ twice and it never happened to Wlad once in just under 70 fights.

And Usyk would never lose to either of those guys who one punched Lewis into oblivion despite being a natural CW and being way smaller than them

Lewis was also KO'd in the amateurs (KO not TKO') despite having way less fights than Usyk, why didn't that happen to Usyk in the amateurs?

I'll tell you what does happen though: Fighters who keep fighting in their opponent's backyards countries on a deck heavily stacked against them/on the road invariably end up losing either via hook or crook. Hence why some of you idols categorically refused to do it once in their entire careers. Usyk forged a career doing it

And Fighters who routinely give away huge/obscene physical advantages like Usyk is vs ones who are also much younger, stronger and more powerful than them invariably get knocked out in their prime, let alone when in their late 30s

And you can count the number of defeats in HW world title fights on Father Time's ledger vs fighters Usyk's age on one hand but if Usyk were to lose now we won't hear a peep out of you about age

Lewis avenged his loses to a crack addict who was experiencing a nervous breakdown during his ring walk and was clearly in no fit state psychologically to fight and to a guy with a glass jaw who was KO'd twice by fellow glass jaw Maskaev. You forgot to mention that part.

He also should've lost to Mercer, the same Mercer who lost to a 18-9 journeyman and then the following year fought to a draw vs a 7-9-2 journeyman

Couldn't put a dent in a sick 214lb Mavrovic and likely would've got stopped by him if there was another round because he was absolutely exhausted, so much so he had to get up on his toes and box and move in the final round vs a much much smaller man, was missing wildly with most of his shots as he was trying to do so, and breathed a huge sigh of relief when the decision was announced

You picked Belly to beat Usyk

Usyk isn't a natural HW, whereas, conversely, Lewis was a massive one who was very often the much or bigger man. Imagine how many times PRIME Lewis' glass jaw would've got shattered if he was routinely giving away the kind of physical advantages a past prime Usyk has been vs way or much bigger men who were also much stronger, younger and more powerful than him?

 

Chisora was Uysk's first real fight as a HW in the pros and it was basically Usyk's introduction to HW boxing pro boxing and he was facing someone who was like 40lbs heavier than him not 30lbs lighter than him like a sick Mavrovic was vs Lewis


Lewis had 34 pro fights at HW when he fought Mavrovic

Chisora's relentless pressure style is a nightmare for damned near everyone, even if you're a 240-250lb + murderous punching giant SHW he's impossible to keep off of you and discourage from coming forward

Like I said, they are heavy on context when it comes to all their favs and all these ''superior'' fighters from previous eras but you won't hear a iota of context from them when it comes to Uysk.

 

You guys are constantly trying to discredit Usyk and diminish his achievements whilst displaying the most glaring double standards and completely ignoring context. Very relevant and important context

A million excuses for the losses of all your boxing gods and idols from previous eras, their refusal to travel, their stacked decks, fouling and dirty tactics and jousting PEDs in their buttocks etc. but you won't even grant Usyk a fraction of the same generosity and fairness which is why it is hard to take any of you seriously.

The WSB is over 5 rounds with amateur gloves not 12 rounds with pro gloves vs pros who have experience fighting 12 rounders. Hence why I specified ''introduction to pro HW boxing.''

You guys try to diminish him by saying he's only fought 5 HWs but now you're including his fights in the WSB over 5 rounds?

Chisora having 13 loses is ignoring context again because he was clearly robbed in a bunch of those losses and he generally always gives a good account of himself and causes almost everyone problems

This is the kind of physical shape Chisora was in for Usyk and that was in large part due to Haye's involvement because he didn't believe he was training hard enough or doing the right kind of training and got him on a great S&C programme

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And Haye was having a tough time vs Chisora as the fight was progressing and he was struggling to deal with that relentless pressure and was starting to run out of gas prior to Chisora walking into a massive shot/sequence of shots from a murderous puncher. Usyk does not possess the kind of savage one shot power Haye did, if Haye didn't possess that power he was the one who would've ended up getting stopped in that fight

And, as said, the version of Chisora he fought didn't take training as seriously and wasn't as powerful as the one Usyk fought or have the benefit of being trained and advised by having a world champion CW who specifically brought in tricky southpaw former opponents of Chisora's who he struggled to cut the ring off against so he could work hard on learning how to remedy that whilst being guided by Haye on how to do so every step of the way. Chisora was preparing to face Usyk for at least 9 months under Haye's tutelage on how to beat a smaller, faster tricky CW by a former CW champion all throughout that time

Mavrovic was way smaller than Lewis not way bigger and Lewis could not put a dent in him and was absolutely exhausted come the final round and I genuinely believe would've got stopped if there was another round which is obviously relevant when drawing a comparison between how the much smaller and faster Usyk would fare against Lewis, especially given how Usyk has an amazing engine and takes it to another level in the championship rounds

 

I give Usyk a good chance tbh.

 

Wow! Quite the overreaction.

You were threatened with a permaban from another mod for whatever reason they saw fit not me and it has nothing whatsoever to do with me so don't start being abusive for no reason with me

Fine. Enjoy your time wherever you end up