Is the existence of Lomachenko and Usyk the biggest proof that boxing has evolved and gotten better

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    Not only are they the most skilled boxers of all time but they come from a different country than USA because the sport is global now and only American fighters were allowed to compete in the sport until very recently and this change in the number of available athletes increased the size of the talent pool 100 times over
     
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    USA used to be incredibly dominant in olympic boxing I mean even Leon Spinks was destroying the very best the Soviets and Cubans had to offer and that is when their amateur systems were arguably at their peak. So even compared to the rest of the world we were always extremely dominant. Something happened its like kids here no longer take to boxing.
     
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    Usyk and Loma are two of the greatest that I have ever seen. I think fighting in the US was some what detrimental for Loma's legacy as he was robbed of at least 2 great victory's. Usyk also fought on the road but won so clearly every time that he could not be denied.
     
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    Loma and Usyk are awesome fighters but come the **** on man. :ohno
     
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    Like Max Schmeling didnt knock out Joe Louis? Like Lennox Lewis didn’t knock out Mike Tyson?

    Like your scrotum doesn’t need kicking?
     
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    Hes doing satire to provoke modernist fans into saying funny things.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    If it is, then you got no case. If it isn’t, you still have no case.
     
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    Loma most talented boxer ever.

    I believe if all boxers in history were the same size and in their prime, Loma would beat them all more often than not
     
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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Loma sucks overrated midget
     
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    Usyk is much, MUCH greater than loma
     
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    Loma has insane footwork, as does usyk with stamina, but no their punch stats does not signify any great evolution from Duran, Leonard, whittaker, Floyd etc

    I'm not saying they are worse either, but no, I don't see great evolution, although their styles are very good
     
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    Not really.

    Usyk has just reminded people that all these lumbering Super Heavyweights aren't the best and a perfectly sized Heavyweight from the 70s/80s like Holmes, Ali, who relied on their skill and conditioning can overcome size differences.

    Heavyweights today are too big too slow and don't have the conditioning which is why Usyk always takes over in the 2nd half of the fight due to his superior conditioning.

    Lomachenko has the ATG skills but something was missing from him he didn't turn up in close fights which cost him and stopped him from being an ATG.

    Which shows sometimes skills aren't enough you need to have instinct in close fights knowing when to turn it up and Loma didn't do that and that's why he fell short of ATG status.
     
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    The Catteral v Eubank fight says the complete opposite !
     
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    Loma and Usyk are simply proof American boxing has slipped to an all time low,