How does Bud Crawford fair against Sugar Ray Leonard ?

Clearly, it was more egregious to hit low as that is against the rules.
I don't know of any rule that SRL broke in his second fight with Duran.

It's absurd and and it's not an idea that I would ever espouse.
I think you are conflating me with a different poster, CT.

In the post to which you responded, I said...

"He did hit him low, but that's not what won him the fight.."

Duran was well ahead in the fight and Buchanan was unlikely to make it to the final bell anyway.

Buchanan continued fighting AFTER the bell for the end of round 14 and Duran obliged him.

Aside from Buchannan's antics, the low blow was far from the worst I've seen.
It's even a possibility that Buchanan wanted a way out at that point.

Had the fight gone to the scorecards at the sound of the bell ending round 13, Duran would have won by a wide margin, therefore I unreservedly disagree with the notion that the low blow won him the fight.

 

Fair enough; if you didn't share the viewpoint of the other poster, then obviously I wouldn't apply those comments to you.

As to Duran/Buchanan:

To quote SaintPat, things are what they are; they are not something else. Duran won the fight via groin punch. He obviously could have won in any number of other ways. For example, Duran could have coasted to a decision. He could have turned the heat up further and stopped Buchanan with legal punches. But Duran hit Buchanan low, and the ref ruled that Buchanan couldn't continue. That punch concluded the fight. A fight that Duran won by TKO directly because of the punch to the groin. That's how he won the fight.

All of the considerations you're raising seem beside the point, to me.

They may be very relevant for who was the better fighter. They are relevant for whom I'd pick to win a rematch. (Duran, obviously, for both.) But they are not relevant to how Duran won the fight, which he did by punching Buchanan low. That's what stopped the fight in Duran's favor, by TKO.

 

One question here, CT...

Did the referee rule the blow to be low ?

If he ruled it a low blow, then he would be obligated to give Buchanan five minutes to recover.

That did not happen.


If he did not rule it a low blow, then it was his prerogative to look at Buchannan and stop the fight.


I don't remember it being ruled low.

I could be mistaken on that point.

 

Nope! Ref didn't rule it low.

 

If it wasn't ruled low, then it would seem that the ref decided it wasn't a foul, and so, a fair stoppage.

 

Surely the relevant factual question is whether Duran punched Buchanan in the groin?

 

Yes, this is a very relevant question.

And it seems that the man in charge of the fight (the man George Foreman called the most important man in the ring, not counting the two fighters ), decided that he did not.

This has happened in other fights.

Zab Judah made a practice of claiming foul in order to get out of continuing.

BHop embarrassed himself with his antics during his WIDE POINTS LOSS to Calzaghe.
He seemed to be angling for an Academy Award nomination in the 10th round.

 

I assume that you don't believe that referees get every call right by definition.

So, do you agree with the referees call that Duran did not hit Buchanan low?

 

Bud`s a faster counter puncher than Ray was and his switch-hitting would bother Ray too, he could also match Ray`s long reach.

 

It was straight in his nuts.

 

No, not many punches landed in the awful B-hop vs Calzaghe fight plus B-hop got a 10-8 round too, every other round was boring and full of spoiling, awful fight.

 

Since you seem to be arguing your original point..."It literally won him the fight by TKO".....on purely technical grounds, I would have to say that what I believed regarding the blow would be irrelevant.

I believe that Pacquaio won his first fight with Bradley by a score of 118 - 110, but the judges ruled in Timmy's favour. Therefore, Timmy won the fight.

In the 1972 bout, Duran won the fight by stoppage.

 

Who is Crawfish's best win again?

Not even a comparison.

Half of his damn resume at WW retired after fighting him. Porter, Spence, Brook & Khan were shot to pieces.

 

Buchanan went down from a low blow and the ref stopped it, have you seen the incident?

 

Saw it live and once or twice since.