Who was physically stronger between Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson?

Sport Illustrated said Evander could bench 360 pounds ten times. That suggests he can max out at 400-450 pounds. That's Arnold territory, great for a non bodybuilder or weightlifter.

 

What date?

 

The article was published around the time of his fight with Adilson Rodrigues. (1989). Back to bodybuilders. They are strong in the gym, but obviously not as strong as powerlifters because they don't have the luxury of weighing as much as they want.

 

Even if he used PEDs, I'd have to see Holyfield bench 360x10 to believe it. EH had exactly the wrong build to bench press. He was not thick through the chest, he had long arms, he had long legs relative to his upper body. I could see him having a good dead lift, but he is not built to bench press.

 

By time they fought? Probably Holyfield, he was beginning to display all the signs of steroid use.
I.e loss of hair, extreme musclarity, loss of flexibility, etc.

 

Holyfield was stronger …it was evident when they fought …he controlled the clinches …it wasn’t so much of a brilliant boxing performance by Holyfield…he just bullied Tyson

 

Some raindrops. A year ago, when Holyfield began his run for Tyson's title, he could bench-press 190 pounds. "Today he's 33 percent stronger than he was last year," says Tim Hallmark, Holyfield's physical-fitness guru. "He does 10 repetitions with 360 pounds after his pulse rate has risen to 180 or 190 beats per minute. A football player can do 360 pounds, but that is with his normal heart rate. If you get his heart rate up to 180 or 190 and tell him to do 360, he'll look at you like you're crazy. There is a tremendous strength decrease [as the heart rate increases]. He won't be able to do it."

https://vault.si.com/vault/1989/07/...o-mike-tyson-with-his-ko-of-adilson-rodrigues

Who knows? I saw Mark Clayton 5'9" 172 pounds beat Mark Gastineau 6'5'' 266 pounds in the weightlifting competition at the Superstars. If my memory is correct Clayton military pressed 270 pounds. Mark couldn't. match it.

 

It's not that far fetched. I've done a little over 400 pounds and can do 300 pounds for multiple reps. A 215 pound heavyweight champion who has full time strength coaches who make their living devising ways to make you bigger and stronger, it's very believable that he could do 360 pounds for 10 reps.

If I had the strength coaches, dieticians and PEDS that Holyfield had, I have no doubt I'd do 360 pounds for 10 reps. Easily. And I have the same general frame and bone structure as Holyfield.

 

@Pat M ill get it for you this time, you cover it near every thread when this comes up lol - get into a square stance… let someone push you, you fall back, or you can be moved backwards in the clinch… now stand properly “bladed” if you will you’ll notice you will no longer be moved quite so easy there are shades of grey between the two extremes and strength plays a role somewhat but basically here it’s just how the two fighters are standing.

 

Wtf that’s crazy, no way, you serious?

 

Four hundred pounds is great, especially if the person isn't doing it isn't a bodybuilder or weightlifter. How much do you weigh?

 

Yeah, you can go into a commercial gym and see guys who aren't pro powerlifters or bodybuilders, they are just big, strong guys that lift weights and see them bench 300 for reps, 350 for reps. Max in the 400s. Now, there is much more PED usage now than in the past. However, Holyfield had the finest PEDs that money could buy. The best strength training coaches and his diet was optimal to maximize his strength and muscle gains. Holyfield was basically a golden age bodybuilder that was a pro boxer. Look at Holyfield at a shredded 215 pounds. That's the same size as top level golden era bodybuilders in the 60s and 70s.

 

About 210 or so at about 6 feet tall.

 

That's impressive. That's practically double your weigjt.