¿Who was physically stronger between George Foreman and Jack Johnson?

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¿Who was physically stronger between George Foreman and Jack Johnson?

  1. Jack

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  2. George

    52 vote(s)
    81.3%
  3. Very close

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  4. George was stronger but Johnson knew how to use force better

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    7.8%
  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Strong doubt your 188lbs brother was holding his own strength wise with Jared Anderson all PED induced 250lbs of him… but if so… did your brother by chance have an opportunity to spar with Foreman to compare? Otherwise it seems like an irrelevant “flex” my guy.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    We can try to dig up some primary sources if you want.

    It must be noted that the evidence for Foreman's physical strength seems to come from similar showmanship.

    The only difference is that they are a bit more recent.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    As I said the cross trainer, the evidence for Foreman's strength seems to come from similar acts of showmanship.
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Enough with the double talk ... when did Foreman "perform" strong man acts in contests in front of live audiences as you claim Johnson did ? You just make stuff up and then shift ... Foreman's strength is documented in his physically overpowering performances in the ring and first hand testaments from big, strong heavyweights .who were overpowered by him ... Frazier, Norton, Chuvalo,Lyle, LeDoux, Cooper, Cooney, Rodriguez, Holyfield, Coetzer, Savarese, Schultz, Grimsley, Morrison, Briggs ... everyone one of these guy were big or very strong or both and every one was documented acknowledging Foreman's applicable in the ring strength ... all this aside , I am a huge fan of Johnson in and out of the ring and have tried my best to study his carer ... I actually feel even given the difference in the sport in the sixty some odd years between their careers Johnson matches ups very well to George H2H ..

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  5. Boxed Ears

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    Yo, there like dozens of dudes said Golovkin was ridiculously strong in gym sparring and he never made it past 168 in the real ring though.
     
  6. Glass City Cobra

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    I quite literally said Bakole is probably stronger than 70’s Foreman.

    All I said was that since Bakole is so fat, it's a flawed argument to assume he's super strong simply because of his weight. That was your argument, you kept going on and on about lbs. Being heavy doesn't automatically mean you're stronger than someone else. Not sure why you're not understanding this.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

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    You were in Anderson's camp and you know for a fact he took PEDs?
     
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  8. janitor

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    I have never claimed that Forman performed in strong man exhibitions.

    My point is that he engaged in media stunts, such as lifting the occasional cow, and this is largely where the evidence for his strength comes from.

    Is that really any better than the evidence for Johnson's strength?

    Now if we are talking about strength demonstrated in teh ring, then Johnson manhandled Jeffries, a man whose feats of strength are arguably more reliably documented than either Johnson or Foreman's.

    The bottom line is that any opinion on which man was stronger, could be little more than an educated guess.
     
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  9. janitor

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    I know female ultra runners who tow a car to strengthen their legs.
     
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  10. janitor

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    It is something that we could probably take a deeper dive on.

    We have never done it previously, because nobody really cared.

    For contrast a lot of effort has gone into documenting Jeffries feats of strength, and we have ended up proving some, and disproving others.
     
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  11. Journeyman92

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    No but my brother was
     
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  12. SouthpawsRule

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    Then what are we even arguing here?

    Hate to break it to you but between two combat athletes that are functional in their weight the heavier one is stronger. It's literally basic physics. Im dying to know what you think determines who is the stronger of the two in the ring.
     
  13. HOUDINI

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    Foreman was the stronger heavyweight but Johnson the far greater fighter.
     
  14. HOUDINI

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    Weight and strength may or may not be related. Fat weight is not “strength”. Was Buster Mathis stronger than Foreman?
     
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  15. SouthpawsRule

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    Buster Mathis was literally obese, Bakole has a lot of muscle and functional strength under his fat.
     
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