¿Who was physically stronger between George Foreman and Jack Johnson?

Weight and strength may or may not be related. Fat weight is not “strength”. Was Buster Mathis stronger than Foreman?

 

Buster Mathis was literally obese, Bakole has a lot of muscle and functional strength under his fat.

 

When I see evidence of Jack picking up a cow over his shoulders or hauling a pickup truck around by a rope in his backyard, I’m willing to reassess my pick that George was stronger.

 

So more weight does not equate to more strength. It may or may not.

 

You are right, Shane Mosley overpowers Frazier.

 

Both of you are right.

Bigger guys are usually also stronger, as long as their size isn't just fat. But there are exceptions to that general pattern.

So when you see, say, Anthony Joshua compared to Ken Norton, the initial reasonable assumption should be that the huge, lean guy who's 30 pounds heavier is also stronger. (Even before we take training methods into account.)

 

Respectfully, if you never verified it, why quote it in a debate ?

 

That’s very different from a blanket statement that the heavier fighter is also stronger. Strength and weight are not universally correlated. Not by a long shot.

 

What ever THIS is has nothing to do with the original post.

 

Well appearantly weight doesn't matter, and Mosley can lift more than Frazier does, so he manhandles Frazier.

Yes they are. I don't know what is up with y'all but yes, they absolutely are. This is why we have weight classes. Saying Bakole being 280 lbs does not make him stronger than a 225 lbs Foreman is literally pure cope to keep up Foreman's juggernaut image. Sure Foreman is stronger than a 280 lbs obese guy with no muscle definition. I'm probably stronger than a dude like that as well. Bakole is not that. Boxers are athletes, they train, they are in good physical shape.

 

Sure.

For in-shape athletes, they are sufficiently correlated to initially presume the bigger guy will be stronger. For chubby little fellas like Buster Mathis, obviously not so much.

 

Most of us do the same thing, to a degree.

We hear something on this forum. Next time the topic comes up, we repeat it when it seems relevant.

 

I don't. I might make my share of errors but I try and own them, not defer to mediocrity ... I will quote a verifiable source or ask someone else to do so.

 

I'm all about deferring to mediocrity, myself.

 

Mass moves mass. It is the oldest dictum in powerlifting.