¿Who was physically stronger between George Foreman and Jack Johnson?

FWIW and if it hasn’t been mentioned already, in his relating of the fight, Ali described Foreman as having thrown him (Ali) into the ropes like a rag doll at one point.

 

My eyeballs work fine. Ali didn’t physically manhandle Foreman one bit. He negated George through some (illegal) clinching, out boxed him and out lasted George who paced himself very poorly in humid conditions. A great effort and it’s one of the reasons why Ali is the best.

A 32 year old tired out a 24 year old because he fought smarter and was better. Not because he was stronger. He wasn’t, not even close.

 

lol it bothers people if GF can’t hit the hardest, can’t be the strongest or have one the best chins… it basically means George wasn’t special if he isn’t secretly as strong and durable as a 260lbs, weightlifting, PED eating modern HW - everybody has to pretend a skinny armed wee heavyweight would overpower guys like Takam in the clinches that he hits harder then Wladmir… that he had a chin like McCall, Vitali or Ortiz etc physically he was so-so… a small boxer boxes, Foreman was not a boxer he gets swept away by the big men of the modern era, Usyk fights like a little guy and he’s 220lbs 6ft3.

 

He outsmarted him, that’s about it.

 

He did no such thing. He sat on the ropes and let the stronger man punch himself out. Hence it was called the “rope a dope.”

Had Ali “controlled” the real estate and fought Foreman from the centre of the ring it’s an entirely different fight.

Ali did not manhandle Foreman. That is a fallacy. He outsmarted him but he didn’t out-muscle him in any way whatsoever.

 

46 votes to 3, the tribe has spoken.

 

Frazier being washed up is a load of anti Foreman BS,he proved against Quarry and later Ali he wasn't.

 

The only one Foreman bothers is you!

 

Quarry had ko'd Shavers 6 months previously and was on a 6 fight winning streak.

 

“Marciano”

 

And? Shavers sucked, end of the road look at his record right afterwards… brutal career he had, short and sweet doe.

 

I find the anti-Foreman sentiment absolutely bizarre from people who clearly love the sport. Foreman gave us all more highlights and great memories than almost everyone before him or since.

 

Shavers was the number 8 ranked heavyweight in the strongest era for heavyweights ever.A couple of months earlier he had ko'd no 3 Ellis in1 round and before than Young in3 rds.

You're an idiot!

 

He didn’t lose to anyone Danny Williams or Kevin McBride level though. As a matter of fact neither did Big George. Gee Tyson sucked lol.

Actually George didn’t get KO’d by someone weighing 185-190 pounds. Gee Joe Louis sucked too.

 

lol