1991 George Foreman vs present day Daniel Dubois

Foreman looked at least an inch taller than guys like Ali and Norton. He also had a hysteric amount of muscle under his fat in 90s. Neither have any relevant strength edge on each other.

 

I think Dubois has a decent shot but I'm still not sold on his chin, whereas Old Foreman had a cliff of a chin. Think I might lean towards Foreman here.

 

Ali was about 6ft2.5 Foreman 6ft3 and some change - still shorter, I’m not willing to believe these two folks are the same “size” especially when one in his prime was 217lbs-220 lol he has a small hint of muscle / definition here when he’s 230lbs, rest of the time he was a fatty… DDD doe… at 250lbs and leaner… basic body composition says DDD is bigger. Bigger and taller end of - stronger? Almost certainly.

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He was more 6’3.5-6.4, quite close to his listed height. Dubois may be bigger size-wise but 90s Foreman was as heavy at 250-260 lbs with a lot of being functional muscle as a result of his borderline-strongman training. He is also a lot better than Dubois when it comes to using his strength in the ring. Dubois isn’t gonna win because he can push Foreman around, he can’t, but he’ll most likely be able to stand his ground without getting flatlined and can outpoint him quite decisively with his jab and youth.

 

I was struggle to make a pick here, and I may change my mind, but I’m edging to Dubois to take a close decision perhaps being busier throughout, landing solid body-shots and uppercuts, but getting rocked himself a few times.

Old Foreman would often just do the cross armed guard as soon as an opponent would even feint, because he knew he could take the body shots, but Dubois would still be scoring, and Dubois does like to throw the lead right hook to the body, which would be there against Foreman which would allow him to score.

Foreman may begin to protect his body with the left, which would open up rights for Dubois.

The higher energy of Dubois and work rate may allow him to be busier and rack up more points throughout.

 

Foreman wouldn't fight Dubois, just like he wouldn't fight Tucker and lots of other 90s heavyweights. GF and his team knew the type fighter he could beat and it wasn't big, strong, hard hitting fighters. Dubois would be another guy that GF wouldn't get into the same area code with, much less a ring.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/13318506/george-foreman-refused-fight-tony-tucker-boxing/

"Foreman revealed he vacated the belt rather than face Tucker.

He told the Oxford Union in 2016: "They tried to force me to fight Tony Tucker after I’d beaten Michael Moorer and I remember looking at Tony Tucker and saying ‘momma didn’t raise no fool’.

"I’m not fighting him, and they took the titles. Some people I’m not going to fight.

"That’s the good reason, I didn’t want to fight him. Too tough.

"I’ve got to tell the truth.""

 

I was thinking this… DDD is someone they’d have steered 70s GF away from if the Lyle fight happened earlier on, it showed his chin wasn’t top shelf and he wasn’t quite the overpowering force they’d thought they had, he barely came out on top against a guy who barely came out on top against Shavers… DDD could potentially run GF over and that’s either version, under 8 IMO.

 

I can't see comeback George being as powerful as the prime version.
Guy s like Alex Stewart and Morrison would be ktfo against prime.

 

^Oh yeah? Well I've watched a bit more of Dubois and he took some big shots from Miller and Hrgovic. His chin might not be nearly as bad as you think.

 

Bradley Martyn beats 70s Foreman. Foreman was a midget at 6’4 and 217 lbs. Martyn is 6’3 260 lbs. We all know what happened when Foreman fought with the 6’3 220 lbs Ron Lyle. Foreman’s team would avoid the fight, and if they were to take it Foreman would get ragdolled by the bigger man.

 

I think it was more a problem of footspeed than power.

 

Way I see it, prime Foreman, more explosive , faster power and dangerous in combination s
Older George, still powerful, heavy punches but slower.did well with single punches.

 

So Dubois, who was stopped or quit after a sharp jab from Usyk, not a devastating one, all of sudden is capable of taking punishment from Foreman?
Not in this reality.
1st issue I've read from some of you is mistaking size for strength. Just because a man is slightly "bigger" doesn't necessarily mean he's stronger.
Dubois fights in a very typical boxing style.
He doesn't take advantage of his naturally bigger size or physicality, and possible strength advantages.
2nd issue is Dubois is simply not a very good boxer, and in the sports best era's he wouldn't be ranked in the top ten.
Foreman fought and beat better fighters than Dubois even in his comeback.
Foreman, even in his comeback used his physicality better than Dubois.
His jab was still very powerful ( The jab that stopped Dubois against Usyk would seem like a stiff breeze compared to a Jab from Foreman) he knew how to pressure, cut off the ring, he knew how to wear an opponent out, by pushing and holding at the right time.
Foreman, knew how to pace himself, had an excellent chin, and underrated defensive abilities.

This fight would end like The Foreman vs Moorer fight, where the younger man's speed would carry him until suddenly it doesn't.
Only difference is Moorer was faster (Than Dubois) had skills , and was a southpaw. Dubois brings none of those advantages into the ring.
Foreman in 6-7 rds at the most. Hell.
The way he quit against Usyk, possibly much earlier.

 

Because obviously a slow footed Foreman and a fast footed Usyk have so much in common........ Show me a single time Foreman beat a prime fighter as big and strong as Dubois. If Foreman didn't have a size advantage over his opponent he struggled hence why he ducked any decently sized 90s heavyweight.