Fights where attritional pressure fighters beat technicians

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  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton beating Malignaggi.
     
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    The two Alfonso Lopez vs. Guty Espadas fights
    Kimio Furesawa vs. Shoji Oguma
    Lightning Little vs. Michael Nunn
    Bazooka Limon vs. Chung-il Choi
    James Toney vs. Michael Nunn
    Roberto Duran vs. Ken Buchanan

    Of these, the Lopez vs. Espadas fights probably best match what this thread is looking for.
    Oguma wasn't really a top-level technician, but he was much more skilled than Furesawa.
    Little vs. Nunn was more the result of Nunn putting in very little effort rather than Steve Little breaking him down.
    Limon didn't break down Choi, either. He just dropped him with the first really hard body shots he landed all fight.
    Toney vs. Nunn and Duran vs. Buchanan played out in the manner specified at the start of the thread, although no one thinks of Toney as a pressure fighter or of Duran as technically inferior to anybody.
     
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    Do you consider Trinidad a pressure fighter?
     
  4. Flo_Raiden

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    Aggressive boxer puncher but he’s had fights where he came forward relentlessly and never stopped coming.
     
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    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    I have never felt like MT was much of a technician he seemed extremely combative in an amateur style sort of way, do you see much difference from his Olympic days and the Chavez fight? Didn’t look like Benton had much if any influence on the guy.
     
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    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    He almost got killed trying to box Buddy in fight 2 doe…
     
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  7. Bronze Tiger

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    A killer robot is what Emanuel Steward called him
     
  8. Bronze Tiger

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    Me neither…when I watch his fight against Howard Davis …I don’t see two highly skilled technicians…I see two of the fastest guys ever
     
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    He was tenacious but very flawed, sad how it ended up for him MT hit his ceiling so hard it broke him against JCC Snr his answer to everything the King of Mexico did was to fight back harder, harder and harder while his body was beaten to pieces if it was 15 rounds he’d have died but he had a helluva fighting heart like a pit bull terrier.
     
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    Probably right maybe his fights with Roger or Camacho are a better example just the first thing that came to my mind
     
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    Paulie wasn’t a better technician than Hatton.
     
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    I think Guty Espadas is more of a puncher than an attrition type puncher tho.
     
  13. FighterInTheWind

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    I am not sure about two of your selections here. The OP asked for cases where the pressure fighter was less "talented" or "skilled." I am not persuaded that Zapata was more talented or skilled than Chang; yes, he was more of an "out-boxer" surely, but that speaks to style only, not talent. Chang is very under-rated skill-wise - like some other pressure-fighter greats. Likewise, I am not sure about Chavez being less skilled than Taylor either. Taylor was faster and was hence beating Chavez to the punch (a bit like Roy Jones versus Hopkins in their first fight.) But that's physically more gifted, not more skilled. Also, I don't think this was a classic out-boxer vs. in-fighter bout as it developed. Taylor was applying pressure himself and was the aggressor for some of the fight.
     
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    Really? Buchanan more "talented" or "skilled" than Duran?
     
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    I only wish we saw more of Forrest against elite fighters to determine his worth.