Tony Tubbs vs Wilder

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I give Wilder a 15-20% chance of catching Tubbs with that wild right. If he does, he likely stops Tubbs. But, 1-5 odds are not what i would call good. And, Tubbs was that much better as a boxer.

 

Tubbs beat Bowe.

 

Tubbs easily.

 

Ridiculous lol. You come off like a smug little child.
Fact of the matter is Wilder has no boxing IQ. Killer rt hand but that's it. I'll still go with the crafty boxer.

 

It's Tubbs by decision or Wilder with the punchers chance stoppage.

 

You're discrediting Tubbs outpointing Page but Page on paper would be Wilders best win of his career.

Tubbs past his peak arguably beat a near prime Bowe aswell which is far more impressive feat than anything on Wilder's resume.

 

In fairness, Tubbs’ weight wasn’t bad for the Page and Smith fights. In fact he weighed less than those guys did. That said, I’m skeptical about him beating wilder.

 

What's arrogant about posting Tubbs' losses? What boxing IQ did Lionel Butler and Jimmy Ellis need to KO Tubbs in one?

Get over yourself.

 

Hardly.

And one fight after Bowe, Tubbs got knocked cold in one round by Lionel Butler. He didn't beat Bowe. And he sure as hell didn't beat Butler.

Tubbs had no prime. He was good in this round and that round. And in a fight over here and over there.

That was the problem with most of those Eighties champs. All the "kinda good" heavyweights held a belt and immediately lost it in their next outing to the next "kinda good" heavyweight.

I sat through it all.

Tubbs was nothing special as a champion. He has no legacy.

Aside from Holmes and Tyson (who tore through all those guys), the Eighties champs were no different than many of the guys Wilder demolished.

Unlike that assortment of Eighties champs, Wilder just didn't lose to them every other fight so they could become champs for a night, too, like the Eighties champs did.

The Greg Page who Tubbs fought was in the midst of a bad losing streak where he won only 2 of 7 fights, and one of those wins was a DQ over Funso Banjo, before Page got KOed by Mark Wills. Same with Bonecrusher. Smith was in the midst of streak were he won 1 out of 5, including losing to Marvis Frazier.

Did you see the Tubbs-Wimpy Halstead fight? Even fights Tubbs won, he'd only "kinda" get by. Nearly all his wins were like that, regardless of the opponent.

Throw a vacant belt to the guys Wilder demolished and they'd pass it around like the eighties guys who passed those belts back and forth ... Gerald Washington knocking out Helenius, Adam Kownacki knocking out Washington, Helenius knocking out Kownacki, Duhaupas knocking out Helenius ... Arreola knocking out Molina, Adamek beating Arreola, Szpilka beating Adamek, Molina knocking out Adamek, Breazeale knocking out Molina ...

Finland would've had a heavyweight champ. France would've had a heavyweight champ. Poland would've had a heavyweight champ. For one night.

Take Wilder out of the picture and give one of them a belt, and they're passing it around like a bag of Doritos.

Those Eighties champs and the guys Wilder beat were no different.

Wilder was a full level above all the eighties heavyweights, excluding Holmes and Tyson, who mowed through the other eighties champs like Wilder mowed through his defenses.

That's why Wilder reigned for so long and had so many successful defenses. He was a dominant champ.

If Wilder sucked like those eighties heavyweight champs did, Spzilka would've been champ for a night, Duhaupas would've been champ for a night, Arreola would've been champ for a night, Washington would've been champ for a night, Breazeale would've been champ for a night,

Just like Tubbs was champ for a night.

Wilder demolishes Tubbs. Just demolishes him. And you guys would all be bashing Tubbs, like you bash most of Wilder's title challengers, because Tubbs was actually less qualified than most of Wilder's challengers.

Tubbs only had 20 fights when he faced Page, and 13 of those 20 wins were against guys with losing records.

The only opponent Wilder defended against with as few as 20 wins was Breazeale, and 18 of Breazeale's 20 opponents had winning records. Not seven (like Tubbs). Still, Wilder wiped Breazeale out.

In the YEAR Tony Tubbs was in HIS PRIME, according to you guys, one of his wins came against 2-12 Tim Miller. Clearly, a beast.

You all would've made fun of Wilder for demolishing the Tony Tubbs who Greg Page faced.

But Tubbs was part of that carousel of one-off strapholders in the Eighties, so some of you feel the need to keep propping them up.

 

That's because Wilder during his title reign wasn't fighting hardly any notable top 10 ranked Heavyweights the only ranked Heavyweight he beat in his title reign was Ortiz.

Overall the ranked Heavyweights Wilder fought were Stirverne, Fury, Ortiz, Parker, Zhang.

And he went 3-4 vs top 10 rated opposition and really it should've been 3-5 because no one believes the draw vs Fury was legit.

If Wilder become champion then had to fight the likes of Witherspoon, Tyson, he would've had a very short title reign.

 

You seem to be ignoring when Wilder was at his best.

You said Tony Tubbs was at his best in 1985.

When was Deontay Wilder at his best?

It certainly wasn't in any year when Wilder fought a guy with only TWO wins, like Tubbs did in 85.

The last guy Wilder fought with TWO wins was in his debut. Not in his apparent absolute prime.

Wilder destroys Tubbs. None of those one-off belt holders would've won anything in the Eighties if Holmes and Tyson were on one side of the aisle and Wilder was on the other.

The titles wouldn't have changed hands fight after fight, just like they didn't when Wilder and Joshua were knocking everyone off. Just like they didn't when the Klitschkos together were knocking everyone off.

The one-night only champs from the Eighties weren't as good as Holmes, Tyson, Wilder, Joshua, Usyk, Fury or the Klitschkos.

Tubbs was one of the worst of the bunch, along with Page. They left no legacies as champs.

None. Zip.

 

You're picking a choosing what I said.

I clearly stated Tubbs was at his best in 1985 when he outpointed Page, Bonecrusher.

And all you're doing is keep mentioning the fact Tubbs won a stay busy fight to discredit him. But won't mention he beat Page, Bonecrusher, the same year.

You also mention Tubbs's losses in the 80s but you won't mention the names he was fighting why is that ? Is it because the likes of Tyson, Witherspoon, would probably beat Wilder ?

It's all about context.

Wilder had more title defences yes but the only ranked contender he beat was Ortiz during that reign.

Had Wilder had to fight likes of Bowe, Tyson, Witherspoon, he more than likely goes 0-3.

Yes Wilder kept himself in shape better than Tubbs overall in his career. But as I said that's all irrelevant because this is a mythical H2H match up with both fighters at their best in prestine condition.

 

Tony in shape boxes Deontay's ears off.