Would Ingo have been the hardest puncher Liston fought?

I think two question marks got lost in your post with all the explanation marks.

 

Ingo definitely hit hard especially with his right which I think was similar to Max Schmeling's right hand. Schmeling though was a better boxer overall though.

 

Never question my idol the Almighty chuck Wepner !!!

 

I don’t think it’s laughable to say Ingo hit harder then Liston… Patterson should know, Ingo just wasn’t as good as Liston. Surely we aren’t going to question the integrity of Patterson of all fighters?

 

It’s not uncommon for fighters to say “ yeah the guy I beat the hell out of hit harder than the man who sparked me in one. “

 

It isn’t but this is two famous punchers and there probably isn’t much between them like usual…Machen was got by Ingo not Liston for one example… Ingo got Patterson with a really good shot too, could have just been a matter of the better singular blow? it’s also FP I don’t think of all the fighters he’d lie, not much of an ego to the guy.

 

It says everything, since I know that you know better than Machen and Patterson who hit them hardest possible.

Anyway, Ingo was the only one who stopped Patterson almost as easily as Liston, and the only man who stopped Machen in the first round in his prime. That confirms that his one-punch power was better than any of those guys I mentioned.

It is not only that Machen was stopped by Ingo in 1st round but Patty and Machen said he hit them the hardest, I will take their opinion instead yours.

 

Very weak argument to say, you are now saying that Patterson opinion was not right but Machen was not too, if Patty said like you said which is not the truth since Floyd was very honest and down to earth person, then why Machen stated that Ingo hit him the hardest because Ingo was the guy who stopped him in the first round while Liston went 12 rounds with him distance.

Your logic is now reversing, don't you think?

 

Well said.

 

Ingo's flattening of Machen was scary , compounded by it being one of the worst stoppages I've ever seen. However mediocre Ingo may have been overall he could crack s the right .. I dont see him last two rounds w Liston.

 

Pretty much, not much between them for power either way… Liston would just murder him though.

 

Ingo never even came close to “ stopping Patterson almost as easily as Liston did. “ not in any universe did that happen . And it was already explained that Machen fought Ingo foolishly with no respect while facing Liston far more cautiously . Liston was known to snap people’s teeth off at the gum line and is commonly rated by many as one of the hardest hitters in division history. Ingemar Johansson ( though powerful ) was not in that fraternity no matter how Floyd Patterson tried to protect his dignity otherwise

 

No I don’t. Fighters say that kinda thing all the time. “ the guy who I sparked hit harder than the man who utterly destroyed me. “ Such claims are almost as ridiculous as those who believe them.

 

Yes, he did, he came close, if he attacked Patterson like Machen in the first round, it would be the same as Ingo KOing Machen, maybe even worse.

Machen fought the same way; he was just better at defending from everything Liston threw and beating his offense with stick and move with infighting and pressure. he beat Liston because Liston could not KO him with anything he threw, and that was the fight where Machen fought one-handed, injured, and Liston was cheating by using something on his gloves.

Ingo one shot Ko power could be equally good, not just because of power but because of the timing so that is why he was picked over Liston by Patterson. Ingo not only had equal power but also good timing for that right hand.

 

Then why did Machen also pick Ingo over Liston as the hardest puncher, since he had easier time with Liston than with Machen?