"Baddest Man: The Making of Mike Tyson" by Mark Kriegel (2025)

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Just picked up. Will report. :thumbsup:
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    While a familiar name and face to boxing fans as onscreen pundit, Kriegel's most well known books have been about figures in other sports (Joe Namath of the NFL and Pete Maravich of the NBA) - but his previous foray into pugilistic bios, on Ray Mancini, was pretty well received.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I too have a copy of this book.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Stuck in yet?
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Negative.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I actually reached out to Mark on social media to compliment him on his excellent Mancini book that I had sitting in my boxing library for about ten years and never read ... we chatted a bit and he asked me to offer my thoughts on this book ... I didn't tell him that I passed on it initially as the thought of another Tyson book made me catatonic .. that said I told him I would read it and circle back .. the book is terrific because in my opinion it gives the rare true story of what has been romanticized .. Tyson's Catskills origin ... I won't get into details any more than that but I feel the book was terrific and highly recommend it.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mark’s a good writer and big fan of boxing. We spoke several times in the 1990s over several topics and I still have an autographed copy of his first book Bless Me Father. A good read.
     
  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Report back.

    I just can't imagine it matches Tyson's own book, which is... uh.. just read it.
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Is that “Iron Truth”? I don’t remember the name, just that he (and his ghost writer…) did it and it was basically from his POV and covered everything…
     
  10. d4n1elc

    d4n1elc DLC Full Member

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    Undisputed Truth
     
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  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I bought it a while back.
    Enjoyed it, it was good to read about that part of Tyson's Life.
    Let's face it, from his start pro to the Spinks fight, was the best of Tyson and most entertaining.
    Talking about Givens and her horrible mother brought back memories that crazy period.
    Their appearance on Walters, Tyson zombie like,his smashing cars, his hand injury, Mitch Green!!
    God it was a mad time.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Been going through in dribs & drabs over the summer... just finished it today.

    Interesting that Kriegel notes in the afterword that he initially set out to write an essay (and not even just specifically on Tyson, but on a bygone time...about the vibe and characters among the NY fight scene and the legacy media sportsbeat writers) and not a narrative biography. The final product came out somewhere in between. He makes known where his biases and conflicts of interest lie, and treats everyone pretty fairly even when truth isn't flattering to his friends or when the devils (ie the Dons, Trump and King - or Ruth Roper Givens) need to be given their due for things like their shrewdness and charisma. Would recommend.
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Why is Trump a devil here in your opinion??
     
  14. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t like Kriegel as a commentator, but he’s a very good writer. I enjoyed the book very much.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Well, just in the context of this story you have:

    • (possibly) screwing Mike's wife.

    • (definitively) screwing over Bill Cayton, telling him to his face that he had his back against Don King only to conspire with King to squeeze Cayton out so he could go for the advisor role

    • (typically) putting himself front & center in the promotion of the Spinks fight, making Buffer give a lengthy speech singing his praises and thanking him, putting his face and name all over everything in the build-up, with both he and King as presenting themselves as bigger than the combatants themselves, and Ali.