To all the people claiming Usyk is the greatest Heavyweight

Ali. Best Ali beats best Usyk for me
Louis. Usyk beats Louis.
Lewis. Lewis beats Usyk, maybe 2 out of 3
Holmes. Holmes I think beats Usyk but no degree of surety.
Marciano. Usyk makes the Rock look silly.
Tyson. I think Usyk beats Mike.
Holyfield. War. Holyfield wins 2 out of 3.
Wladimir. Mmm. Difficult. 50/50 is all I got.
Foreman. Usyk whips young George.
Frazier. FOC Frazier beats Usyk.

All my opinion, others are equally viable and available..

 

Bowe has a **** resume.

 

An all time great easily. Greatest heavyweight ever, even more so than Muhammad Ali? Not even close.

 

I'm trying to figure out what you and others who think this are basing this one? Usyk's best wins are fighters who are slow footed and nowhere near as athletic as him. TBH, they aren't that great. We didn't forget Joshua getting the breaks beat off of him by a fat tub of lard in Andy Ruiz. We didn't forget Fury almost losing to an MMA fighter in his pro debut. How does beating them mean he sweeps through every heavyweight that ever lived?

 

I’m kinda tired of this era debate to be honest it seems like after every significant performance there’s this instant “ could he beat this guy or that guy”
My two sense on this debate is that Ali is the goat at heavyweight with Louis at 2 and after that there’s a gap.

 

Usyk has stopped ONE opponent at HW. ONE.

Incoherent GOAT noises commence.

 

Usyk is clearly the number #2 Greatest British Heavyweight Champion of all time after Lennox Lewis. But it really is difficult to place him in the ATG top 10.
If he isn't going to reach 40+ fights, it would be at least nice to see him fight some other nationalities as World Champion.

And maybe some more of the younger prime fighters (though that suggestion really wasn't liked on here a few years back)

 

To be fair now, Chaz Witherspoon retired as well
so there's that

 

Because Dubois is coming off a strong winning streak against big strong fighters.

Dubois took a 330 pound guy that was 100 pounds heavier, thats like 10 weight classes.

Meanwhile Ali got dropped by light 185 pound heavyweight in cooper.

Usyk cleaned house in HW and CW winning every single belt available. Never been done and unlikely to ever happen again.

You can glorify the past all you want its just a shame we can't have different era's fight each other... but if we could I bet money on Usyk beating most on your list. And winning the rematch too

 

Hes a Commonwealth champ. His belts should be relegated to Commonwealth because he doesn't fight fighters from other regions thats what he is. Regional champ. World champ fights challengers around the world. He refuses to do so.

At the peak of Pax America Ali fought 6 British guys, 2 Germans a Canadian, Belgian, Dutch, Uruguayan, Argentinian.

Louis couldn't fight Euros because of WW2 and fought a Schmeling, Farr, Carnera, Uzcudchin, Godoy, Brion and Agramonte and rematched 4 of them.

Holmes beat more non Americans in HW title fights then Usyk has beaten anyone in HW title fights.

Lennox fought a Pole, Croat, South African, New Zealander a Ukranian and 9 Americans.

Wladimir Klitschko fought a lot of Americans for the title but also fought 3 Brits, 2 Russians, 2 South Africans, a Nigernian, Uzbek, Frenchman, Italian, Bulgarian and Australian.

Tyson fought mostly Americans and Brits as champ but he fought a lot more diverse opponents after losing to Buster.

 

Usyk has arguably the best resume in boxing when it comes to the quality of his opponents. He beat skilled SHWs fighters who would be a tough challenge for anyone in history, and he did so convincingly. His resume is much better than Frazier, Foreman, or Marciano, none of whom ever defeated a true super-heavyweight.

 

Absurd logic.

 

This is ludicrous, Usyk fought the UN at cruiserweight in their own backyards, beat the **** out of the Brits in their own backyard, it's not his problem that the rest of the world apart from New Zealand and Germany hasn't produced a decent challenger, he has beaten the best at heavyweight, if the best were British that's it.

 

Not the greatest. But I am willing to consider him to be a Top 10 ATG at Heavyweight after this win.

 

Usyk is a superheavyweight. Can we just stop pretending that Usyk is small and hes shattering some make believe glass ceiling?

Usyks better than Marciano but Marciano still had to win almost 50 fights. When Moore campaigned to fight Marciano, Marciano to his credit took the challenge and found a way to beat him.