Joe Parker: “Derrick is in there right now trying to get a fight. **** OFF! I’m next!”

Not trolling, this is a genuine question - which holes exactly are you talking about that Parker can exploit?

 

The problem Kabayel has is he lacks depth to his resume big time... And Parker really doesn't.

It's fine to say Kabayel beat Zhang more decisively - but that was an (even) older Zhang, and the problem with lacking depth is that there's no other proper frames of reference... Unless you want to go back to Chisora as a common opponent, but Kabayel's fight with Chisora was way back in 2017, and he spent the next 7 or so years feasting on absolute bums.

He's on an okay run at the moment, compared with 2017-2023... But Sanchez and Makh are overrated wins with very little behind them, which leaves you with pretty much Zhang and ancient history with Chisora.

From Usyks point of view, does it make sense to fight the guy who has a deep resume and getting on for a decade of relevance (Parker was WBO champ in '16) or to fight the guy with only two serious wins who might go on to do more, or might disappear from view for years like he did before?!


I don't think it's close in terms of who deserves it more and even less so in terms of who makes sense for legacy.

 

Parker has earned his shot.

It ideally should have been him in there against Usyk instead of Dubois, who Usyk had already beat.

But let's have Parker-Usyk in New Zealand or Saudi Arabia in December.

 

I'm no expert myself, I'm just going off of what Andy Lee has said, that he has seen some things in Usyk's fights that they can use to their advantage.

Like I said though, I am sure that Usyk can adjust to those. For example in the first Fury fight Fury obviously found a chink in Usyk's game and was winning rounds with those uppercuts and actually had Usyk worried, then Usyk adjusted and the rest is history.

 

I'd love if it were in NZ, but I don't think we could afford to host that fight. Saudi would be great, but I get the feeling that Turki doesn't really like Parker and won't put up the cash for it.

 

Even Jake Paul was in there having a face off with Usyk! Paul looked a bit nervous when Parker came up, but Parker is too nice to ever do anything.

 

You can dissect this in so many different ways though. Every HW outside of Usyk has the same 'flaws' to their resume right now if you go deep enough.

Kabayel defeated Zhang more emphatically, yet Zhang was coming off x2 devastating KO's of Joyce when Parker fought him and was by a yardstick the most avoided heavyweight at the time.

With Bakole obviously there is a context to that fight as you rightly say, but that works both ways. Parker took the risk as well. Again, Bakole was the most avoided HW at the time (who Kabayel avoided in an IBF mandatory last year) and coming off a highlight reel KO.

Parker struggled in the first fight against Chisora and manhandled him in the second. Not many people have knocked Chisora down 4 times in a night. Really the first time we saw Parker show a bit of spite and it suited him.

His loss to Joyce was by far the most damaging. But I think fans forget what a specimen Joyce was 2020-2023. Likewise with Whyte, Parker fought them their brief windows of prime.

The Whyte loss is hard to put in a case against Parker given the blatant corrupt officiating and it being over 7 years ago.

Agreed, they both suffer the issue of being dangerous fighters based outside the UK/USA bubble with little drawing power. Both have beneffited from Saudi. For my money when it comes to either of those guys facing Usyk if it happens; Kabayel will play the matador and Parker will thread the needle and I think Parker has the better chance but Usyk would be a wide favorite.

 

Parker and Kabayel are the only dudes who've earned the shot.

 

You're right it is HW boxing and upsets can happen.

You'd win a lot of money if you bet on Parker to beat Usyk though!

 

You can even dissect Usyk's at heavyweight if you want. He has only beaten 4 Englishman, 3 of them twice and all of them either out of prime or never good to begin with. Chisora was old and had over 10 losses, Joshua hasn't been the same since Ruiz and his best win since was an ancient Pulev, Fury was completey washed after blowing up to 400lbs and the Wilder trilogy, and Dubois is one dimensional and his best win is Hrgovic who hasn't beaten anyone (Zhang robbery) and he had to headbutt 20+ times to even win that!

See I don't believe that stuff, but its easy enough to pull apart anyone's resume if you wanted to.

 

There was a reason . Usyk wanted to fight nobody but dubois . We saw yesterday why .

In future he will fight even jake paul before he will face parker or kabayel .

Thats the sad thruth .

 

Usyk has never avoided anybody and you know that.

Mr. Big Shot, who do you think you are?

This content is protected

 

Can he please prove that against a top 5 heavy or get in the long line instead of trying to jump on top after losing twice against usyk?
Ridiculous

 

He hasnt avoided anyone but this era will realistically end next year. Parker and to a lesser extent Kabayel are the top dogs right now. DDD will need some fights to get back in contention. The young guns arent at contender level yet and are jostling for position. The meaningful fights generate less money and if Usyk wants to fill out Wembley AJ or Fury and even (spits) Jake Paul are his only options.

HW division is in a weird place right now and will look very different by 2027.

 

Parker is not a shameless beggar like Derrick .. Derrick done the same too Fury .. he tries to befriend all these top HW so they can throw him a payday ..

I head he was going to lunch with Usyk today to beg him for a shot .. lol beggar.