Why do you think Loma never had the same level of success as Usyk

The Salido fight was flat out disgusting from the weigh in all the way until the final bell.

 

Few reasons

1. I feel Loma is more arrogant than Usyk, I felt he heavily underestimated Lopez.
2. He isn’t as tough as Usyk, still plenty tough but not willing to die in there like I feel Usyk would be.
3. He was just way too small and his frame was horrible for moving up, short arms and narrow shoulders.
4. He took too many rounds off, he would always just use the first 3 rounds to download data.

I feel overall Loma is in the top 5 most skilled boxers ever and I’d make an argument that H2H he’s one of the best ever P4P

 

Lomachenko didn't quite understand that he as an EE fighter needed to win rounds categorically to win a decision against big name American boxers in the US.

 

Yeah I thought that if he had stepped on the gas a couple rounds earlier that he would've got Haney out of there in the 11th or 12th he had him ready to go Haney would not of survived that onslaught if it had started a round or 2 earlier.

 

He lacks the physical strength, unlike Usyk who cannot easily be pushed around or clinched by the bigger opponents. Why not come back, and do Usyk's Dubois rematch approach. He already has the skills after all. He could even challenge Manny.

 

Agreed but the reach disadvantage is the biggest factor for loma not achieving the success that Usyk achieved and the fact that usyk is calculating every minute of the round and keeping a mental score, he knows when to turn it on to take a round, and above all else Usyk has the heart of a true champion

 

If Usyk was in Loma shoes he would have been robbed by Breidis

 

Loma is flashier but ultimately not as good as Usyk technically.

 

Bad management choices & injury.

 

He couldn't adapt to pros as good as Usyk did. Both of them are extremely technical fighters but Usyk has that "Ali mode" where he can put his foot down and just out-punch a guy if all that fancy boxing fails. Loma could never really do that. He doesn't fight back when someone roughs him up, he just loses round after round until he finally figures out a way to turn it into a chess match again, and by that point it's just too late.

 

Lomachenko is almost as special a fighter as Usyk. Unreal talent, who achieved a huge amount.

(I hate to say it, but he could easily have been undefeated.. His losses were all controversial. He never got beaten up or legitmately outboxed)

The differences are..

1. Going above his best optimal weight class and stupidly staying there. He looked unbeatable at Super Featherweight and Featherweight. He only gave his opponents a chance by staying at Lightweight where he was clearly undersized.

2. Having almost all his fights in the USA. And choosing the Lightweight division to stay in which is corruptly run by American promoters and is the USA's best weight class. Nowhere in the world robs foreign fighters more than the USA, and it's the only country which elects three American judges and an American referee in world title fights.

3. The one thing Usyk has which Loma lacked in some of his most important fights is the ability to step it up when he really needed to (or just to make sure). Loma took the last round off losing the 12th round against both Lopez and Haney.

 

Had Usyk lost against Fury the narrative would have been that he pushed himself too much/wasn't quite big enough to be the absolute best. All too familiar excuses.

Instead he did what Loma failed to in key fights - regain control.

 

Basically what everyone said: Loma's arrogance, management, lack of urgency, miscalculation, adapting too late, and not maintaining control in the ring when he needed it.

Loma is far more talented in ability and athleticism but Usyk is far superior when it comes to ring IQ, aggression, killer instinct, and adaptability.

Although I'm also in the belief that things would be far different had Loma decided to just stick around 130 and dominate there for a long period instead of going up to 135 where he was normally outsized.