Man what a shot!

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you mean Kabeyal and Parker?

    But that is not a competition. PARKER is the best available by resume by a country mile.

    PARKER WINS
    Ruiz
    Wilder
    Zhang
    Bakole
    Botha
    Meehan
    Dimentrenko
    Chisora
    Lapai
    HughFury
    Takam

    KABEYAL WINS
    Zhang
    Chisora
    Sanchez
    Makmhudov

    People are making a false equivalency, here.
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yes Kabayel and Parker.

    Them are the best two available challengers left.
     
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  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Again, I'm not even certain Usyk is the greatest Ukrainian of all time...
     
  4. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    It comes down to masterful strategy. Rather than start slow against AJ in the first fight as is often his habit he came out and drilled him a couple of times with the straight left. Great statement of intent that got AJ into his own head instantly. It was a bit like that today, DD and his handlers had built him up to believe he was some sort of monster that couldn't be stopped. Usyk came out with intent and broke down DD's self confidence from the opening round.

    DD's team did him a disservice tying his entire self esteem to the myth that he's a wrecking ball. You could see his confidence after the fight was shot with Don Charles having to tell him what to say in the interview. Sad.
     
  5. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    LoL :lol::lol::lol:

    Nice try. ;) But Usyk absolutely IS the greatest Ukrainian boxer ever. AND UNDEFEATED :naughty2:
     
  6. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    "Spectre of Kabayel" will be dismissed as a hypejob instantly if he were to fight and lose to Usyk rn. Why bother if you just know you would get no credit for that.
     
  7. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Whos better then him?
     
  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    IDK. I think Wlad and Vitali beat him
     
  9. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    Da f!@k???? Wlad, the same guy who got beat by AJ???? And Vitali, although tougher, couldn’t maintain the pace that Usyk would set. Usyk all day, every day.
     
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  10. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes, Wlad, the guy who at like 42 years old lost to AJ.

    Wlad would set the pace against Usyk.
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Well the power in Usyk’s left hasn’t exactly been a well keep secret and it stands to reason that the power becomes greater when an even heavier Olek is that much less mobile and better set to deliver it.

    In Fury 1, round 9, it was the left that severely buckled Fury’s knees, sending him falling into the ropes, starting him on his roller coaster ride - that could’ve (imo, should’ve) culminated in the first ever stoppage of Tyson.

    At any rate, if the genie wasn’t out of the bottle already, it certainly was by the time of the first Fury fight.

    Usyk is your classic “He isn’t a puncher until he is”.

    That shot on Dubois was absolutely concussive and of course Dubois had already been put down shortly prior to.

    I’ve only seen the KO a few times, not the whole fight as yet.

    From what I’ve seen I don’t know that it is a lock that Dubois necessarily quite per se.

    I mean, after Usyk hit him, IF Daniel had fallen, flat out with eyes closed, completely out - it wouldn’t have been to difficult to reconcile the preceding punch having yielded that outcome. Certainly, it was no phantom punch. Lol.

    As it was, Dubois’ eyes were open as he sat but he still could’ve been totally discombobulated, causing a slight delay in his understanding of what had just happened and what he had to do next - and that was to get himself back up, of course.

    Not at all being apologetic on Dubois’ behalf but just trying to fairly analyse the material impacts of what was a fully legit KO punch imo.

    If you watch how Foreman went down and eventually got it up in Zaire, the complexion of same wasn’t completely dissimilar to that of Dubois’ reaction and ultimate rising.

    Both men (Foreman and Dubois respectively) weren’t completely out but their brain functioning was still severely compromised.

    As far as I know, no one accused Foreman of quitting against Ali - though I understand that contextually, Daniel is interpreted as having an apparent history for same.

    Post Zaire Foreman of course went on to uphold his own psychological mettle by arising from two devastating KDs against power puncher Ron Lyle, going on to ultimately win that fight.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

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    Because a champion should fight the most deserving challengers.
     
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  13. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he just got off the floor and got rocked with a right hook 1 sec before
     
  14. Undisputed x3

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    It was beautiful KO

    You could tell by Dubois's face he was feeling that left hand all night.
     
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  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kabayel is too busy running from Wladamir to take serious. Parker is the only deserving challenger.
     
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