Who hit the hardest: Ali, Holmes, or Usyk?

Why is Fury dominating cruiser weights important?

 

Hey R where you been brother?

 

Don't forget Shannon Briggs as well. Briggs was a massive puncher and he couldn't even move Foreman. Foreman is as durable as anyone that has fought in the heavyweight division.

 

I totally agree mate. Besides that, it wasn't really a punch that put him on the floor.

 

Ali’s right hand was textbook basically one of the only conventional things Ali consistently did was throw and use his right hand properly.

 

Ali right hand is the hardest of any of their punches

 

If you're asking the question you didn't read the first interaction

 

Yep. This isn't even close. Ali was a borderline banger before the hand issues came up. Watch how opponents reacted to his right. They did NOT like it.

I'll give an honorable mention to Holmes for having the hardest jab among the three. Although then again, when Usyk goes for those spear jabs, they look real stiff.

Holmes did have a better right uppercut than either man. Had a nice right hook too.

 

Foreman proved his durability against the men he faced, but the key mistake you're making is that you are assuming that durability is a magical quality that is independent of physics, it isn't. A 250lb man carries more kinetic energy into a collision than a 220lb man. That's not watering down mechanics, that's the reality of force.

The question isn't whether Foreman was tough. The question is whether his toughness, proven mostly against smaller men, would hold up to the force generated by athletes 30-40 pounds heavier when guys like Young were able to rock him. By dismissing the weight difference, you're essentially arguing against the very reason weight classes exist which It's an unprovable leap of faith on your part.

 

this is such a dishonest argument.

Foreman stood up to the power of Cooney, Morrison, Briggs etc. and we are supposed to pretend that because he had one knockdown that resulted more from exhaustion vs Young that he somehow had a mediocre chin.

Lyle was the same weight as Wilder who dropped the super heavyweight Fury twice.

Your arguments have been disproven already. The majority of the hardest hitters in heavyweight history weighed between 210-225 lbs at their peak including Wilder. Bigger heavyweights are not more durable nor do they punch any harder.

There is nothing impressive about rocking Fury considering how many times he has been rocked before. Fury, Joshua and Dubois are not even in the same league durability wise as Ali, Holmes, Foreman etc. Its not even a debate dude.

I have no problem admitting when i am wrong. Yet you and others on this thread keep repeating the same false disproven arguments over and over again.

 

I would also give Ali the edge in terms of the lead hook. Ali had a very good left hook. Holmes had the best uppercut of the bunch.

 

I dont know if Ali left hook is better than Usyks right hook